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    I'm in the midst of doing a winter clean and polish along with some maintenance. I want to take off the clutch and alternator covers to use my bench mounted buffing wheels and want to know what to expect upon removal.

    Clutch cover - my manual says simply to remove the clutch cable but makes no mention of removing the release arm. Any hints on how to get that stubborn nut loose?

    Alternator cover - same manual and it says not to remove the 3 allen screws in the middle of the cover. Why not? Also says to disconnect the battery and some wiring with an aim to removing the alternator itself. I just want the cover off for cleaning. Should I anticipate anything frightening (bits and pieces falling out) if I just remove the cover? What is attached to the inside of this thing?

    Thanks as always.
    1980 XS 1100 Special
    Mostly stock & original
    Added Yamaha fairing (w/ 8-track!)
    Torpedo bags
    New paint (still) pending
    Stainless brake lines
    Tkat forkbrace
    Coils from Honda 1000

    Previous bikes:
    1968(?) 350 Harley Davidson
    1977 Yamaha 650

  • #2
    Originally posted by barrelguy View Post
    Clutch cover - my manual says simply to remove the clutch cable but makes no mention of removing the release arm. Any hints on how to get that stubborn nut loose?




    Alternator cover - same manual and it says not to remove the 3 allen screws in the middle of the cover. Why not? Also says to disconnect the battery and some wiring with an aim to removing the alternator itself. I just want the cover off for cleaning. Should I anticipate anything frightening (bits and pieces falling out) if I just remove the cover? What is attached to the inside of this thing? Thanks as always.
    you shouldnt have to remove the lever that can stay with the casing, but in saying that when u reassemble ull want to be able to adjust the clutch.


    the stator is attached to that casing, its been ages since ive had that cover
    off to have it buffed, but once u remove the alt casing there shouldnt be any dramas in removing the 3 allen bolts to remove the stator to polish.
    pete


    new owner of
    08 gen2 hayabusa


    former owner
    1981 xs1100 RH (aus) (5N5)
    zrx carbs
    18mm float height
    145 main jets
    38 pilots
    slide needle shimmed .5mm washer
    fitted with v/stax and uni pod filters

    [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pA8dwxmAVA&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL[/url]

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    • #3
      Like Pete said, removing the clutch cover is very simple. First remove the two phillips head screws holding the small cover for the adjustment area, and then bend th small tab and remove the cable after loosenign at the clutch lever. Then, pull the ten or so bolts holding the full clutch cover on. Either drain the oil, or put the bike on the side stand and no or very little oil will leak out.

      As to the alternator cover, I believe you will find the wires are attached to that cover and need to be removed with it. The three allen scres do hold the stator in place, my thought is that it may be spaced just so in its mounting and never pull those screws. You could polish with it in place if you cover with a bag nicely.
      Life is what happens while your planning everything else!

      When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt.

      81 XS1100 Special - Humpty Dumpty
      80 XS1100 Special - Project Resurrection


      Previously owned
      93 GSX600F
      80 XS1100 Special - Ruby
      81 XS1100 Special
      81 CB750 C
      80 CB750 C
      78 XS750

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      • #4
        Buffing...

        One thing to be careful of, when buffing, is the oil level sight glass which is plastic and will easily burn with too much pressure. I put a few layers of painters tape on mine to protect it when I polished. Also I didn't remove the stator as the bolts were on there to stay and just taped it off too.
        1980 XS1100G "Dolly G" Full Dresser (with a coat of many colors )
        1979 XS1100SF (stock-euro mods planned)
        1984 XV700L Virago (to be hot-modded)
        1983 XJ750MK Midnight Maxim (semi-restored DD)
        1977 XS650D ( patiently awaiting resto)

        Sometimes it takes a whole tank of gas before you can think straight.

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        • #5
          Note on the clutch cover removal, one of the bolts on my SH was behind the footpeg. I had to loosen the footpeg a little and rotate it out of the way to get to it, but it wasn't a big deal.
          XS11SH :: K&N Pods, 4->1, Dynojet kit, Barnett clutch springs, TC's fuse block, ATGATT

          Well, goodness. Look what we've got here.

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          • #6
            My G was the same way, the right footpeg has to be rotated backwards a bit which requires loosening the rear engine mounting bolt a little so it can move first.
            Cy

            1980 XS1100G (Brutus) w/81H Engine
            Duplicolor Mirage Paint Job (Purple/Green)
            Vetter Windjammer IV
            Vetter hard bags & Trunk
            OEM Luggage Rack
            Jardine Spaghetti 4-2 exhaust system
            Spade Fuse Box
            Turn Signal Auto Cancel Mod
            750 FD Mod
            TC Spin on Oil Filter Adapter (temp removed)
            XJ1100 Front Footpegs
            XJ1100 Shocks

            I was always taught to respect my elders, but it keeps getting harder to find one.

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            • #7
              Pic of hidden bolt...





              Once You polish, stainless bolts are the icing on the cake
              1980 XS1100G "Dolly G" Full Dresser (with a coat of many colors )
              1979 XS1100SF (stock-euro mods planned)
              1984 XV700L Virago (to be hot-modded)
              1983 XJ750MK Midnight Maxim (semi-restored DD)
              1977 XS650D ( patiently awaiting resto)

              Sometimes it takes a whole tank of gas before you can think straight.

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              • #8
                So far, so good! Both covers removed without incident, polishing tomorrow. One further query - for ease of handling the alternator cover around the buffing wheels, is it advisable (or not) to remove the stator and the winding apparatus? Making sure everything goes back in the same way it came out.
                1980 XS 1100 Special
                Mostly stock & original
                Added Yamaha fairing (w/ 8-track!)
                Torpedo bags
                New paint (still) pending
                Stainless brake lines
                Tkat forkbrace
                Coils from Honda 1000

                Previous bikes:
                1968(?) 350 Harley Davidson
                1977 Yamaha 650

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                • #9
                  Stator etc.

                  You can remove the three screws and pull the stator out. The windings will also come out no problem just remember the orientation and use the correct size screw drivers. You don't want to strip anything. Also the site glass in the clutch cover case is a pressed in friction fit. Its tight but will come out. I removed everything to have my LH covers powder coated.
                  mack
                  79 XS 1100 SF Special
                  HERMES
                  original owner
                  http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps6932d5df.jpg

                  81 XS 1100 LH MNS
                  SPICA
                  http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad305/mack-055/2.jpg

                  78 XS 11E
                  IOTA
                  https://youtu.be/wB5Jfbp6SUc
                  https://youtu.be/RaI3WYHSuWA



                  Have recovery trailer and shop if you breakdown in my area.
                  Frankford, Ont, Canada
                  613-398-6186

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by mack View Post
                    I removed everything to have my LH covers powder coated.
                    Approx how much did powder coating cost you for your covers each, what color did you go with?
                    81 XS1100H

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Schming View Post
                      [IMG]http://i752.photobucket.com/albums/xx161/Schming_2009/PictureBikes063.jpg
                      Once You polish, stainless bolts are the icing on the cake
                      There is so much GLARE that my eyes are blinded for the details! (kidding, looks real nice man!)
                      Skids (Sid Hansen)

                      Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

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                      • #12
                        powder coating

                        Since this is a midnight special I went with high gloss black on everything.


                        I had everything bead blasted and the covers you can see, clutch, timing, stator, tranny, middle drive cover, and starter covers cost me about $75 canadian. The head was $200 as it was a more detailed job. The head light bucket, instrument cans, triple tree, stands etc came to another $125. I had the frame, tank, side covers and fenders done by someone else and they're done in automotive paint and laquered 3 times. That cost me close to $750. I know what your thinking, that bike isn't worth the money I have in paint. I'm sure I couldn't sell it for what I have into it, but since I'm not selling it anyway. To me it's worth every penny I'm putting into it. Don't even ask about this:
                        mack
                        79 XS 1100 SF Special
                        HERMES
                        original owner
                        http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps6932d5df.jpg

                        81 XS 1100 LH MNS
                        SPICA
                        http://i946.photobucket.com/albums/ad305/mack-055/2.jpg

                        78 XS 11E
                        IOTA
                        https://youtu.be/wB5Jfbp6SUc
                        https://youtu.be/RaI3WYHSuWA



                        Have recovery trailer and shop if you breakdown in my area.
                        Frankford, Ont, Canada
                        613-398-6186

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                        • #13
                          Looks way better than how far I plan to take mine. Koodoos to you!
                          2-79 XS1100 SF
                          2-78 XS1100 E Best bike Ever
                          80 XS 1100 SG Big bore kit but not fully running yet.
                          Couple of more parts bikes of which 2 more will live!

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                          • #14
                            Stator

                            I pulled the windings out of the housing with no problem, just be careful with the wires and put everything back the way it came out
                            Originally posted by mack View Post
                            You can remove the three screws and pull the stator out. The windings will also come out no problem just remember the orientation and use the correct size screw drivers. You don't want to strip anything. Also the site glass in the clutch cover case is a pressed in friction fit. Its tight but will come out. I removed everything to have my LH covers powder coated.
                            1979 XS1100 Special (Mad Max, OEM) Current
                            1980 XS1100 Special
                            1990 V Max
                            1982 KZ750 LTD Twin
                            1986 700 FZR Yamaha Fazer (faster then expected)
                            1979 XS750 Special (my 1st Special)
                            1974 CB750-Four



                            Past/pres Car's
                            1961 Catalina 389/1970 Torino GT 351/1967GTO 12to1 comp./ Roller cam/ T-10/ 456 gear/Tri-power/1967 GTO 400, 1969 Camaro, 1968 Z28, 2001 BMW M Roadster 0 to 60 in 4.5 sec. Jaguar XK8

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by skids View Post
                              There is so much GLARE that my eyes are blinded for the details! (kidding, looks real nice man!)
                              Thanxs Skids. I should've turned the flash off the pics are kinda blinding
                              1980 XS1100G "Dolly G" Full Dresser (with a coat of many colors )
                              1979 XS1100SF (stock-euro mods planned)
                              1984 XV700L Virago (to be hot-modded)
                              1983 XJ750MK Midnight Maxim (semi-restored DD)
                              1977 XS650D ( patiently awaiting resto)

                              Sometimes it takes a whole tank of gas before you can think straight.

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