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  • ninety4point6
    XSive
    • Oct 2011
    • 21
    • McPherson, Kansas

    #1

    Need a clutch that will handle 150-200hp

    I'm going to be building a draw through turbo system for my bike within the next couple months and I know the stock clutch won't handle it.

    I don't know to much about motorcycle clutches because I am coming from the car world.

    The bike will be mainly used for drag racing and quick blasts on the street.

    Thanks for the help.
    80 XS1100
    Draw through turbo build coming soon
  • crazy steve
    XS-XJ Guru MODERATOR
    • Jan 2009
    • 7932
    • Beautiful outer Yelm, WA

    #2
    Barnett is the only one out there still making 'performance' clutch parts for these, so you should contact their tech dept and see what they say. But I doubt if it's rated to that HP level...
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    • Pat Kelly
      XS-XJ Super Guru
      • Jul 2002
      • 3046
      • Golden Valley, AZ

      #3
      Might have to adapt one from a Vmax or 'Busa that makes that HP stock.
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      • James England
        XS-XJ Super Guru
        • Oct 2010
        • 3039
        • North of England

        #4
        I had nitrous oxide injection on an XS1100 and it was 190bhp on a rolling road. I found the clutch slipped when the nitrous kicked in but 10% stronger springs was all I did. I used the complete OEM clutch and just used the beefier springs. It never once slipped after that. I ran the nitrous for over a year on 'normal' road use (not racetrack) and never had any problems at all! While I was in there I replaced the release bearing too.
        XS1100F 1980 European model. Standard. Dyna coils. Iridium plugs. XS750 final drive (sometimes). Micron fork brace. Progressive front springs. Geezer regulator/rectifier. Stainless 4 into 2 exhaust. Auto CCT (Venturer 1300) SOLD. New project now on the go. 1980 European model.

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        • ninety4point6
          XSive
          • Oct 2011
          • 21
          • McPherson, Kansas

          #5
          Originally posted by crazy steve
          Barnett is the only one out there still making 'performance' clutch parts for these, so you should contact their tech dept and see what they say. But I doubt if it's rated to that HP level...
          I'll check them out. Thanks.

          Originally posted by Pat Kelly
          Might have to adapt one from a Vmax or 'Busa that makes that HP stock.
          I'll look into what that entails. I know how to work a mill and a lathe so I might be able to adapt something like that.

          Originally posted by James England
          I had nitrous oxide injection on an XS1100 and it was 190bhp on a rolling road. I found the clutch slipped when the nitrous kicked in but 10% stronger springs was all I did. I used the complete OEM clutch and just used the beefier springs. It never once slipped after that. I ran the nitrous for over a year on 'normal' road use (not racetrack) and never had any problems at all! While I was in there I replaced the release bearing too.
          This is encouraging. Do you have a link to the springs that you used?
          80 XS1100
          Draw through turbo build coming soon

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          • BA80
            Doctor of XSology
            • Oct 2010
            • 9980
            • Tulsa, Ok

            #6
            Barnett clutch springs
            Greg

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            • ninety4point6
              XSive
              • Oct 2011
              • 21
              • McPherson, Kansas

              #7
              Originally posted by BA80
              Thanks.

              I found some EBC springs that are 10% stiffer than stock.
              https://www.denniskirk.com/ebc/csk-c...prd/382009.sku

              Are the barnett springs better/stiffer?
              80 XS1100
              Draw through turbo build coming soon

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              • James England
                XS-XJ Super Guru
                • Oct 2010
                • 3039
                • North of England

                #8
                Originally posted by ninety4point6
                This is encouraging. Do you have a link to the springs that you used?
                They were just generic springs... EBC I think. Nothing special but 10% stiffer.
                XS1100F 1980 European model. Standard. Dyna coils. Iridium plugs. XS750 final drive (sometimes). Micron fork brace. Progressive front springs. Geezer regulator/rectifier. Stainless 4 into 2 exhaust. Auto CCT (Venturer 1300) SOLD. New project now on the go. 1980 European model.

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                • ninety4point6
                  XSive
                  • Oct 2011
                  • 21
                  • McPherson, Kansas

                  #9
                  Originally posted by James England
                  They were just generic springs... EBC I think. Nothing special but 10% stiffer.
                  Cool, thanks.

                  How much were you spraying on your bike?
                  80 XS1100
                  Draw through turbo build coming soon

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                  • natemoen
                    Master of XSology
                    • May 2010
                    • 8640
                    • Fargo

                    #10
                    Ebc springs work, but they measure out at just at or actually below factory spec for free length.

                    Barnett for just a couple bucks more are WAY better springs.
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                    • petejw
                      XS-XJ Guru
                      • May 2005
                      • 2269
                      • sydney australia

                      #11
                      you can also put washers behind the clutch springs
                      to stiffen the clutch up, itll give u a stiffer lever
                      but works well.
                      pete


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                      zrx carbs
                      18mm float height
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                      38 pilots
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                      • ninety4point6
                        XSive
                        • Oct 2011
                        • 21
                        • McPherson, Kansas

                        #12
                        Originally posted by natemoen
                        Ebc springs work, but they measure out at just at or actually below factory spec for free length.

                        Barnett for just a couple bucks more are WAY better springs.
                        Alright cool, thanks for the advice.
                        Originally posted by petejw
                        you can also put washers behind the clutch springs
                        to stiffen the clutch up, itll give u a stiffer lever
                        but works well.
                        I'll look into that. Thanks.

                        Stifff lever isn't a huge deal for me. All I really do is warm up the bike, go beat on it, and put it away. Usually only do quick rides to attempt to stay outta trouble.
                        80 XS1100
                        Draw through turbo build coming soon

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                        • BA80
                          Doctor of XSology
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 9980
                          • Tulsa, Ok

                          #13
                          Originally posted by ninety4point6
                          Thanks.

                          I found some EBC springs that are 10% stiffer than stock.
                          https://www.denniskirk.com/ebc/csk-c...prd/382009.sku

                          Are the barnett springs better/stiffer?

                          I wouldn't use the EBCs if I were you. From what I've heard they don't have near the longevity of the Barnetts.

                          I have Barnetts in both bikes and no complaints.
                          Greg

                          Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

                          ― Albert Einstein

                          80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

                          The list changes.

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                          • ninety4point6
                            XSive
                            • Oct 2011
                            • 21
                            • McPherson, Kansas

                            #14
                            Originally posted by BA80
                            I wouldn't use the EBCs if I were you. From what I've heard they don't have near the longevity of the Barnetts.

                            I have Barnetts in both bikes and no complaints.
                            Alright sounds good. The Barnett springs it is then.
                            80 XS1100
                            Draw through turbo build coming soon

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                            • ninety4point6
                              XSive
                              • Oct 2011
                              • 21
                              • McPherson, Kansas

                              #15
                              Any other opinions?

                              Thanks.
                              80 XS1100
                              Draw through turbo build coming soon

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