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    OK several questions-how long does a battery tender plus last?mine i have had it for about 4 years and it is hooked up to my Yamaha battery and red light blinks goes to green quickly and back to red-same voltage for the past 2 hours-no change-9.82 volts and no lights whatsoever at that voltage when it was in the bike.And wanted to ride it today.Red to positive black to negative so i know it is hooked up right.
    1980 XS1100 SG
    Inline fuel filters
    New wires in old coils-outer spark plugs
    160 mph speedometer mod
    Kerker Exhaust
    xschop K & N air filter setup
    Dynojet Recalibration kit
    1999 Kawasaki ZRX1100
    1997 Jeep Cherokee 4.5"lift installed

  • #2
    Sounds like the battery has a dieing cell, that is how the tender worked om my bike when the battery was shot

    Originally posted by oldyam80sg View Post
    OK several questions-how long does a battery tender plus last?mine i have had it for about 4 years and it is hooked up to my Yamaha battery and red light blinks goes to green quickly and back to red-same voltage for the past 2 hours-no change-9.82 volts and no lights whatsoever at that voltage when it was in the bike.And wanted to ride it today.Red to positive black to negative so i know it is hooked up right.
    1979 XS1100 Special (Mad Max, OEM) Current
    1980 XS1100 Special
    1990 V Max
    1982 KZ750 LTD Twin
    1986 700 FZR Yamaha Fazer (faster then expected)
    1979 XS750 Special (my 1st Special)
    1974 CB750-Four



    Past/pres Car's
    1961 Catalina 389/1970 Torino GT 351/1967GTO 12to1 comp./ Roller cam/ T-10/ 456 gear/Tri-power/1967 GTO 400, 1969 Camaro, 1968 Z28, 2001 BMW M Roadster 0 to 60 in 4.5 sec. Jaguar XK8

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    • #3
      Ok its from Walmart and it is hit or miss with them.Have money just need good battery.
      1980 XS1100 SG
      Inline fuel filters
      New wires in old coils-outer spark plugs
      160 mph speedometer mod
      Kerker Exhaust
      xschop K & N air filter setup
      Dynojet Recalibration kit
      1999 Kawasaki ZRX1100
      1997 Jeep Cherokee 4.5"lift installed

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      • #4
        Ok its from Walmart and it is hit or miss with them.Have money just need good battery.
        __________________
        ..........and battery tenders are NOT your battery's friend...........but obviously the marketing has millions convinced otherwise............
        81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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        • #5
          Also, a battery that low should be attempted to be first charged with a regular full strength charger device, and then once it's up to normal full charge, then the tender could be used. But yep, sounds like a dead cell, but you could get lucky. I have a tender, but I rarely use it, I prefer to connect my regular 2 amp trickle smart charger to the battery once a month or so during the winter. My garage isn't climate controlled, and I really should remove the battery from the bike and store it inside the house/closet, cold isn't good for the battery either! Of course, I would put it back out in the garage for actual charging, but then put it back in the house to keep nice and warm and cozy!

          T.C.
          T. C. Gresham
          81SH "Godzilla" . . .1179cc super-rat.
          79SF "The Teacher" . . .basket case!
          History shows again and again,
          How nature points out the folly of men!

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          • #6
            My garage isn't climate controlled, and I really should remove the battery from the bike and store it inside the house/closet, cold isn't good for the battery either.///////////////"shelving" a wet cell batteryhas MORE negative effect than the cold..........wet cell batteries like to be 'used'...........
            81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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            • #7
              Ok, here is thought. Anyone ever added their MC battery to their cage during the off months? I have more than enough room in my engine compartment to strap my scoot battery in there and wire it in like a diesel engine with 2 batteries.
              Nathan
              KD9ARL

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              K&N Filter
              #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
              OEM Exhaust
              ATK Fork Brace
              LED Dash lights
              Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

              Green Monster Coils
              SS Brake Lines
              Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

              In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

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              • #8
                I dont think so nate

                If you are talking about running in series, that should only be done on batteries of same capacity.

                If setup in parallel, you need an auxiliary battery isolator to get it to charge properly.

                John
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                Go ahead, click on the bikes - you know you want to...the electrons are ready.
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                • #9
                  Cycle

                  Just cycle it once in a while during storage Turn you bike to park for 10 min., then slow charge it with a low amp charger. Twice a season in the winter and it will last a long time
                  1979 XS1100 Special (Mad Max, OEM) Current
                  1980 XS1100 Special
                  1990 V Max
                  1982 KZ750 LTD Twin
                  1986 700 FZR Yamaha Fazer (faster then expected)
                  1979 XS750 Special (my 1st Special)
                  1974 CB750-Four



                  Past/pres Car's
                  1961 Catalina 389/1970 Torino GT 351/1967GTO 12to1 comp./ Roller cam/ T-10/ 456 gear/Tri-power/1967 GTO 400, 1969 Camaro, 1968 Z28, 2001 BMW M Roadster 0 to 60 in 4.5 sec. Jaguar XK8

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by motoman View Post
                    Ok its from Walmart and it is hit or miss with them.Have money just need good battery.
                    __________________
                    ..........and battery tenders are NOT your battery's friend...........but obviously the marketing has millions convinced otherwise............
                    If I have a battery that is not in use, I hook up my smart charger/tender about once a month for about 24 hours. I don't however keep it hooked up any longer than that. I've had good luck with that method over the last few years. On the bike since it pretty much never sits more than about 3 days, I've not hooked up the charger/tender in over a year, even though I have the pigtail hooked up for that purpose in case it's needed.
                    Cy

                    1980 XS1100G (Brutus) w/81H Engine
                    Duplicolor Mirage Paint Job (Purple/Green)
                    Vetter Windjammer IV
                    Vetter hard bags & Trunk
                    OEM Luggage Rack
                    Jardine Spaghetti 4-2 exhaust system
                    Spade Fuse Box
                    Turn Signal Auto Cancel Mod
                    750 FD Mod
                    TC Spin on Oil Filter Adapter (temp removed)
                    XJ1100 Front Footpegs
                    XJ1100 Shocks

                    I was always taught to respect my elders, but it keeps getting harder to find one.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by natemoen View Post
                      Ok, here is thought. Anyone ever added their MC battery to their cage during the off months? I have more than enough room in my engine compartment to strap my scoot battery in there and wire it in like a diesel engine with 2 batteries.
                      The problem would be that the cars charging system would tend to charge the bike battery faster than is good for it and would tend to cook the battery.
                      Cy

                      1980 XS1100G (Brutus) w/81H Engine
                      Duplicolor Mirage Paint Job (Purple/Green)
                      Vetter Windjammer IV
                      Vetter hard bags & Trunk
                      OEM Luggage Rack
                      Jardine Spaghetti 4-2 exhaust system
                      Spade Fuse Box
                      Turn Signal Auto Cancel Mod
                      750 FD Mod
                      TC Spin on Oil Filter Adapter (temp removed)
                      XJ1100 Front Footpegs
                      XJ1100 Shocks

                      I was always taught to respect my elders, but it keeps getting harder to find one.

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                      • #12
                        We had crappy weather since Hurricane Irene in N.J. and normally i keep it in my Moms garage during the riding season,however she had her garage floor sealed and it sat in my storage unit.I almost chopped off my finger at work in September and have not ridden since.I dont have a battery charger but will borrow one from my boss at work.
                        1980 XS1100 SG
                        Inline fuel filters
                        New wires in old coils-outer spark plugs
                        160 mph speedometer mod
                        Kerker Exhaust
                        xschop K & N air filter setup
                        Dynojet Recalibration kit
                        1999 Kawasaki ZRX1100
                        1997 Jeep Cherokee 4.5"lift installed

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                        • #13
                          Another thought...

                          I hooked up one of those smart battery chargers to a deep cycle batt that I use for a trolling motor. The thing came back with a "bad battery/replace" message. I suspected something was wrong since the batt wasn't that old. An inspection of the batt revealed that a couple of the cells were low on water. I filled them all up, re-connected the charger, and all was well. The batt charged up and is in use again.
                          I also did this with a wallyworld MC batt that sat around for a year and a half after a couple of years of use. Charged up, and have been running it in my G for a year now.
                          SO..... make sure your cells are full before attempting to charge or analyze.
                          Make sure you use only distilled water to top them off, anything else will cause deterioration of the batt.
                          1980G Standard, Restored
                          Kerker 4 - 1
                          850 Rear End Mod
                          2-21 Flashing LED Arrays on either side of license plate for Brake Light Assist, 1100 Lumen Cree Aux Lights,
                          Progressive springs, Showa rear shocks
                          Automatic CCT
                          1980GH Special, Restored
                          Stock Exhaust, New Handlebars, 1" Spacer in Fork Springs, Automatic CCT, Showa Rear Shocks
                          '82 XJ1100 (Sold)
                          Automatic CCT, RC Engineering 4 X 1 Exhaust, K&N Pods, #50 Pilot Jets, YICS Eliminator. Sorely missed.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by motoman View Post
                            My garage isn't climate controlled, and I really should remove the battery from the bike and store it inside the house/closet, cold isn't good for the battery either.///////////////"shelving" a wet cell batteryhas MORE negative effect than the cold..........wet cell batteries like to be 'used'...........
                            Hi Brant,
                            I was told that one should make sure the battery is fully charged then wrap it in plastic and put it outside in a snowbank until spring.
                            Never had the bottle to try it.
                            And why should a battery tender not be your friend?
                            Fred Hill, S'toon
                            XS11SG with Spirit of America sidecar
                            "The Flying Pumpkin"

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by fredintoon View Post
                              Hi Brant,
                              I was told that one should make sure the battery is fully charged then wrap it in plastic and put it outside in a snowbank until spring.
                              Never had the bottle to try it.
                              And why should a battery tender not be your friend?
                              Freezing a wet cell battery is a good and quick way to destroy a battery!
                              Nathan
                              KD9ARL

                              μολὼν λαβέ

                              1978 XS1100E
                              K&N Filter
                              #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
                              OEM Exhaust
                              ATK Fork Brace
                              LED Dash lights
                              Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

                              Green Monster Coils
                              SS Brake Lines
                              Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

                              In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

                              Theodore Roosevelt

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