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  • XS1100_OEM4ME
    XS-XJ Guru
    • Mar 2009
    • 1619
    • Fort Myers, Florida

    #1

    Spray Bomb Paint Job

    Here is a new pic of my bike with my latest "spray bomb" paint job. I haven't rubbed it out and waxed it yet (needs to cure a while 1st) I use a two part spray can clear (activator is built into the can and you add by pushing a valve on the bottom of the can) so it will harden and resist fuel spills. And yes, that is a paper towel wraped around the P-cock, waiting on the new O rings Just thought I would share

    1979 XS1100 Special (Mad Max, OEM) Current
    1980 XS1100 Special
    1990 V Max
    1982 KZ750 LTD Twin
    1986 700 FZR Yamaha Fazer (faster then expected)
    1979 XS750 Special (my 1st Special)
    1974 CB750-Four



    Past/pres Car's
    1961 Catalina 389/1970 Torino GT 351/1967GTO 12to1 comp./ Roller cam/ T-10/ 456 gear/Tri-power/1967 GTO 400, 1969 Camaro, 1968 Z28, 2001 BMW M Roadster 0 to 60 in 4.5 sec. Jaguar XK8
  • Cobia
    XS-XJ Guru
    • Jul 2007
    • 1587
    • Palm Beach County, Fl

    #2
    Looks very good, Lon. What kind of paint/coating did you use?
    1980G Standard, Restored
    Kerker 4 - 1
    850 Rear End Mod
    2-21 Flashing LED Arrays on either side of license plate for Brake Light Assist, 1100 Lumen Cree Aux Lights,
    Progressive springs, Showa rear shocks
    Automatic CCT
    1980GH Special, Restored
    Stock Exhaust, New Handlebars, 1" Spacer in Fork Springs, Automatic CCT, Showa Rear Shocks
    '82 XJ1100 (Sold)
    Automatic CCT, RC Engineering 4 X 1 Exhaust, K&N Pods, #50 Pilot Jets, YICS Eliminator. Sorely missed.

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    • XS1100_OEM4ME
      XS-XJ Guru
      • Mar 2009
      • 1619
      • Fort Myers, Florida

      #3
      Speed Clear

      Originally posted by Cobia
      Looks very good, Lon. What kind of paint/coating did you use?
      Its called Alsa Speed Clear. It is ridiculously expensive, $40.00 a can + S/H but it is tough as nails after it cures. Once you activate the spray can, you only have a few hours to use it before it starts to harden inside the can. 24 month shelf-life before activation. I had some left over from my "employed" days

      Here it is:
      Last edited by XS1100_OEM4ME; 10-26-2011, 06:18 PM.
      1979 XS1100 Special (Mad Max, OEM) Current
      1980 XS1100 Special
      1990 V Max
      1982 KZ750 LTD Twin
      1986 700 FZR Yamaha Fazer (faster then expected)
      1979 XS750 Special (my 1st Special)
      1974 CB750-Four



      Past/pres Car's
      1961 Catalina 389/1970 Torino GT 351/1967GTO 12to1 comp./ Roller cam/ T-10/ 456 gear/Tri-power/1967 GTO 400, 1969 Camaro, 1968 Z28, 2001 BMW M Roadster 0 to 60 in 4.5 sec. Jaguar XK8

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      • xs11lover
        XS-XJ Guru
        • Apr 2008
        • 1433
        • Montoursville Pa

        #4
        Wow, that's really nice. I suck at painting. I'm sure I'd have $120 into it and it still wouldn't be that nice.
        79 XS11 Special (Lazarus)
        80 XS850 Special (Old Faithful)
        80 XS11 Standard sorta stock (Beatrice)
        79 DT 100

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        • XS1100_OEM4ME
          XS-XJ Guru
          • Mar 2009
          • 1619
          • Fort Myers, Florida

          #5
          Thanks

          Originally posted by xs11lover
          Wow, that's really nice. I suck at painting. I'm sure I'd have $120 into it and it still wouldn't be that nice.
          Thanks, it still has a little haze, but when it hardens (I give it about a month to be sure it is totaly cured), I will buff and wax it and it should look like glass
          1979 XS1100 Special (Mad Max, OEM) Current
          1980 XS1100 Special
          1990 V Max
          1982 KZ750 LTD Twin
          1986 700 FZR Yamaha Fazer (faster then expected)
          1979 XS750 Special (my 1st Special)
          1974 CB750-Four



          Past/pres Car's
          1961 Catalina 389/1970 Torino GT 351/1967GTO 12to1 comp./ Roller cam/ T-10/ 456 gear/Tri-power/1967 GTO 400, 1969 Camaro, 1968 Z28, 2001 BMW M Roadster 0 to 60 in 4.5 sec. Jaguar XK8

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          • crazy steve
            XS-XJ Guru MODERATOR
            • Jan 2009
            • 7932
            • Beautiful outer Yelm, WA

            #6
            If you use a modern two-part paint and supplies, it's actually fairly easy to get really nice results. I shot my SG with a single-stage (no clearcoat) urethane, then wet-sanded with 1500 (just until the orange peel disappeared), followed up with 2000, then 3000, then used some Meguires 'pro' rubbing compounds. The 3000 paper leaves it looking almost as good as what you'd get with 'regular' rubbing compound, and the rubbing-out process with the 'pro' stuff was no harder than applying a paste wax and gave me a super-smooth finish. Results here...

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            Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

            '78E original owner - resto project
            '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
            '82 XJ rebuild project
            '80SG restified, red SOLD
            '79F parts...
            '81H more parts...

            Other current bikes:
            '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
            '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
            '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
            Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
            Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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            • XS1100_OEM4ME
              XS-XJ Guru
              • Mar 2009
              • 1619
              • Fort Myers, Florida

              #7
              Nice

              That looks nice! Lots of steps / work. I walked out out back, shook a rattel can, held up my tank and sprayed Still, I am happy with mine
              1979 XS1100 Special (Mad Max, OEM) Current
              1980 XS1100 Special
              1990 V Max
              1982 KZ750 LTD Twin
              1986 700 FZR Yamaha Fazer (faster then expected)
              1979 XS750 Special (my 1st Special)
              1974 CB750-Four



              Past/pres Car's
              1961 Catalina 389/1970 Torino GT 351/1967GTO 12to1 comp./ Roller cam/ T-10/ 456 gear/Tri-power/1967 GTO 400, 1969 Camaro, 1968 Z28, 2001 BMW M Roadster 0 to 60 in 4.5 sec. Jaguar XK8

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              • crazy steve
                XS-XJ Guru MODERATOR
                • Jan 2009
                • 7932
                • Beautiful outer Yelm, WA

                #8
                Originally posted by XS1100_OEM4ME
                ...Lots of steps / work...
                Actually, it's not a lot of work; I sanded/rubbed out the tank and sidecovers in about 6 hours total. I'll never go back to 'regular' rubbing compounds again... Don't get the idea I'm a pro; I shot this in my garage, and had numerous bugs commit suicide in the wet paint. I'm using a cheap HF HVLP 'detail' gun ($50 in a 2 gun kit) and as long as you avoid any runs, it's almost impossible to screw this up. I've found that once you've got the gun, it's as cheap or cheaper than using spray cans. But even if you're using rattle-cans, you can still get this finish with the fine papers and compounds. Mine probably didn't look as good as yours before I rubbed it out...

                One nice thing about using the super-fine papers is you can see the progress you're making and it's pretty hard to sand though the paint as they're not that aggressive. The rubbing compounds I used are Meguires 'MirrorGlaze' 105 Ultra-cut and 205 UltraPolish. You have to buy these at an auto-body supply (not available in most parts stores) and they're not cheap ($30 per bottle, but I've got enough to do a half-dozen bikes), but well worth the money IMO.
                Last edited by crazy steve; 10-26-2011, 07:16 PM.
                Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

                '78E original owner - resto project
                '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
                '82 XJ rebuild project
                '80SG restified, red SOLD
                '79F parts...
                '81H more parts...

                Other current bikes:
                '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
                '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
                '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
                Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
                Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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                • XS1100_OEM4ME
                  XS-XJ Guru
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 1619
                  • Fort Myers, Florida

                  #9
                  Originally posted by crazy steve
                  Actually, it's not a lot of work; I sanded/rubbed out the tank and sidecovers in about 6 hours total. I'll never go back to 'regular' rubbing compounds again... Don't get the idea I'm a pro; I shot this in my garage, and had numerous bugs commit suicide in the wet paint. I'm using a cheap HF HVLP 'detail' gun ($50 in a 2 gun kit) and as long as you avoid any runs, it's almost impossible to screw this up. I've found that once you've got the gun, it's as cheap or cheaper than using spray cans. But even if you're using rattle-cans, you can still get this finish with the fine papers and compounds. Mine probably didn't look as good as yours before I rubbed it out...

                  One nice thing about using the super-fine papers is you can see the progress you're making and it's pretty hard to sand though the paint as they're not that aggressive. The rubbing compounds I used are Meguires 'MirrorGlaze' 105 Ultra-cut and 205 UltraPolish. You have to buy these at an auto-body supply (not available in most parts stores) and they're not cheap ($30 per bottle, but I've got enough to do a half-dozen bikes), but well worth the money IMO.
                  Hi Steve, I was just kidding around I owned a AutoBody shop in my youth. I have done the kind of paint job you are talking about. Here is a pic of my 68 Z28 (and, yes, I did extend the mufflers to over the axle after the pic was taken) It was primed, sealed, top coated with PPG black Lacquer (Ah, the good ole days when you could buy / spray Lacquer), debur-sanded between 5 coats, PPG gold Lacqure stripes, gold micro sequins in clear on top, then 5 coats of PPG clear Lacquer, debur-sanded between coats, then 1000 sanded, 1200 sanded, 1600 Ditzler power buffing compound, Ditzled pollishing compound then finishing compound then wax then off to the car shows But that was a $100,000.00 show car, this is a $1,900.00 bike, and I am getting old

                  My Z28:

                  1979 XS1100 Special (Mad Max, OEM) Current
                  1980 XS1100 Special
                  1990 V Max
                  1982 KZ750 LTD Twin
                  1986 700 FZR Yamaha Fazer (faster then expected)
                  1979 XS750 Special (my 1st Special)
                  1974 CB750-Four



                  Past/pres Car's
                  1961 Catalina 389/1970 Torino GT 351/1967GTO 12to1 comp./ Roller cam/ T-10/ 456 gear/Tri-power/1967 GTO 400, 1969 Camaro, 1968 Z28, 2001 BMW M Roadster 0 to 60 in 4.5 sec. Jaguar XK8

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                  • XS1100_OEM4ME
                    XS-XJ Guru
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 1619
                    • Fort Myers, Florida

                    #10
                    Compound

                    Originally posted by crazy steve
                    Actually, it's not a lot of work; I sanded/rubbed out the tank and sidecovers in about 6 hours total. I'll never go back to 'regular' rubbing compounds again... Don't get the idea I'm a pro; I shot this in my garage, and had numerous bugs commit suicide in the wet paint. I'm using a cheap HF HVLP 'detail' gun ($50 in a 2 gun kit) and as long as you avoid any runs, it's almost impossible to screw this up. I've found that once you've got the gun, it's as cheap or cheaper than using spray cans. But even if you're using rattle-cans, you can still get this finish with the fine papers and compounds. Mine probably didn't look as good as yours before I rubbed it out...

                    One nice thing about using the super-fine papers is you can see the progress you're making and it's pretty hard to sand though the paint as they're not that aggressive. The rubbing compounds I used are Meguires 'MirrorGlaze' 105 Ultra-cut and 205 UltraPolish. You have to buy these at an auto-body supply (not available in most parts stores) and they're not cheap ($30 per bottle, but I've got enough to do a half-dozen bikes), but well worth the money IMO.
                    I am going to try those compounds you mentioned, you cant get Ditzler 1600 anymore (not for about 20+ years now) I have been using 3M 39002 and its OK, but culd cut faster / better, Thanks
                    1979 XS1100 Special (Mad Max, OEM) Current
                    1980 XS1100 Special
                    1990 V Max
                    1982 KZ750 LTD Twin
                    1986 700 FZR Yamaha Fazer (faster then expected)
                    1979 XS750 Special (my 1st Special)
                    1974 CB750-Four



                    Past/pres Car's
                    1961 Catalina 389/1970 Torino GT 351/1967GTO 12to1 comp./ Roller cam/ T-10/ 456 gear/Tri-power/1967 GTO 400, 1969 Camaro, 1968 Z28, 2001 BMW M Roadster 0 to 60 in 4.5 sec. Jaguar XK8

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                    • bikerphil
                      Master of XSology
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 8629
                      • South Flori-DUH

                      #11
                      After wet sanding 2 part clearcoat, Mothers chrome polish works pretty well to bring back the gloss, YMMV.
                      2H7 (79) owned since '89
                      3H3 owned since '06

                      "If it ain't broke, modify it"

                      ☮

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                      • crazy steve
                        XS-XJ Guru MODERATOR
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 7932
                        • Beautiful outer Yelm, WA

                        #12
                        I called Maguires tech line and asked what would be the best way to finish motorcycle parts. They're too small to machine-polish easily, and they were who recommended the 3 steps of paper and compounds. I gotta tell you, those Maguires compounds flat-out amazed me..

                        I do remember the 'old days', of careful wet-sanding then hours of rubbing to bring back the shine... Try 'em, you'll love 'em too....
                        Last edited by crazy steve; 10-26-2011, 09:58 PM.
                        Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

                        '78E original owner - resto project
                        '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
                        '82 XJ rebuild project
                        '80SG restified, red SOLD
                        '79F parts...
                        '81H more parts...

                        Other current bikes:
                        '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
                        '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
                        '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
                        Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
                        Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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                        • XS1100_OEM4ME
                          XS-XJ Guru
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 1619
                          • Fort Myers, Florida

                          #13
                          Originally posted by crazy steve
                          I called Maguires tech line and asked what would be the best way to finish motorcycle parts. They're too small to machine-polish easily, and they were who recommended the 3 steps of paper and compounds. I gotta tell you, those Maguires compounds flat-out amazed me..

                          I do remember the 'old days', of careful wet-sanding then hours of rubbing to bring back the shine... Try 'em, you'll love 'em too....
                          Yea, back in the day, 1200 grit had just been invented Will try the Maquires
                          1979 XS1100 Special (Mad Max, OEM) Current
                          1980 XS1100 Special
                          1990 V Max
                          1982 KZ750 LTD Twin
                          1986 700 FZR Yamaha Fazer (faster then expected)
                          1979 XS750 Special (my 1st Special)
                          1974 CB750-Four



                          Past/pres Car's
                          1961 Catalina 389/1970 Torino GT 351/1967GTO 12to1 comp./ Roller cam/ T-10/ 456 gear/Tri-power/1967 GTO 400, 1969 Camaro, 1968 Z28, 2001 BMW M Roadster 0 to 60 in 4.5 sec. Jaguar XK8

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                          • crazy steve
                            XS-XJ Guru MODERATOR
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 7932
                            • Beautiful outer Yelm, WA

                            #14
                            Originally posted by XS1100_OEM4ME
                            Hah! Those were the days... header mufflers and slapper bars, yeah baby!
                            Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

                            '78E original owner - resto project
                            '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
                            '82 XJ rebuild project
                            '80SG restified, red SOLD
                            '79F parts...
                            '81H more parts...

                            Other current bikes:
                            '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
                            '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
                            '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
                            Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
                            Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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                            • XS1100_OEM4ME
                              XS-XJ Guru
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 1619
                              • Fort Myers, Florida

                              #15
                              Nice bike

                              Originally posted by crazy steve
                              Hah! Those were the days... header mufflers and slapper bars, yeah baby!
                              Although, I am a OEM fan, the wheels, turn lights, bars, mirrors and with no sidecover emblems of your bike has a nice clean look It kinda has a KZ look, which was a great looking bike in its own right, one of the 1st bikes that caught my eye as a young lad
                              1979 XS1100 Special (Mad Max, OEM) Current
                              1980 XS1100 Special
                              1990 V Max
                              1982 KZ750 LTD Twin
                              1986 700 FZR Yamaha Fazer (faster then expected)
                              1979 XS750 Special (my 1st Special)
                              1974 CB750-Four



                              Past/pres Car's
                              1961 Catalina 389/1970 Torino GT 351/1967GTO 12to1 comp./ Roller cam/ T-10/ 456 gear/Tri-power/1967 GTO 400, 1969 Camaro, 1968 Z28, 2001 BMW M Roadster 0 to 60 in 4.5 sec. Jaguar XK8

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