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    Hello. I'm new to the sight and recently bought a 1980 xs1100 mns. I'm looking for a new master cylinder. Does anyone no of a after market master cylinder that would work for my bike? I was interested in one that was on the mikes xs site but when i asked them if it would work for my bike they said they didn't have the schematics on the xs1100. So it may or may not work. Has anyone here used a master cylinder from the mikes xs site or know of another one that would work. Any help would be greatly appreciated thanks.
    -robin

    1980 xs1100mns
    Ss lines
    Mikes xs 16 mm bore master
    Superbike bars

  • #2
    I think if you look on the bottom of the cylinder there is a size/diameter. You just have to get one either that size or a tad bit smaller ... Don't go too small though because if you tap the brakes you be doing a stoppie and dump your bike
    ~Jay
    Guilty Ones M.C.
    Manassas, Va.

    1980 Standard G
    2001 CBR 929RR

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    • #3
      http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread.php?t=34389


      Check out this thread too ... I basically had the same question
      ~Jay
      Guilty Ones M.C.
      Manassas, Va.

      1980 Standard G
      2001 CBR 929RR

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      • #4
        Thanks. I think I'm going to go with the 16mm bore dual disk master cylinder that is on mikes xs site. It's all black and will look good on my mns. I also just installed new ss lines and brake shoes. Hopefully I can get it on the road before the weather in Seattle goes south.
        -robin

        1980 xs1100mns
        Ss lines
        Mikes xs 16 mm bore master
        Superbike bars

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        • #5
          Originally posted by bikemight View Post
          Thanks. I think I'm going to go with the 16mm bore dual disk master cylinder that is on mikes xs site. It's all black and will look good on my mns. I also just installed new ss lines and brake shoes. Hopefully I can get it on the road before the weather in Seattle goes south.
          I'm not sure what stock size is, if you find out let me know ... lol. I put all that on hold until I finish up the exhaust. Had too much going on at once. but like I said make sure 16 isn't too small. Those SS brake lines are going to add some power too because they don't expand like the old rubber hoses...
          ~Jay
          Guilty Ones M.C.
          Manassas, Va.

          1980 Standard G
          2001 CBR 929RR

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          • #6
            Pretty sure the 16mm is stock for the mns but I'm not sure about other models.
            -robin

            1980 xs1100mns
            Ss lines
            Mikes xs 16 mm bore master
            Superbike bars

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            • #7
              Originally posted by bikemight View Post
              Thanks. I think I'm going to go with the 16mm bore dual disk master cylinder that is on mikes xs site. It's all black and will look good on my mns. I also just installed new ss lines and brake shoes. Hopefully I can get it on the road before the weather in Seattle goes south.
              you have the right one there. have you tried cleaning your current master cylinder?
              Nathan
              KD9ARL

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              1978 XS1100E
              K&N Filter
              #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
              OEM Exhaust
              ATK Fork Brace
              LED Dash lights
              Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

              Green Monster Coils
              SS Brake Lines
              Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

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              • #8
                Originally posted by bikemight View Post
                Pretty sure the 16mm is stock for the mns but I'm not sure about other models.
                All of the XS11s (except for the '81 MNS/XJ with their 'split' braking system) used a 11/16" bore master (about 17.5 mm). The 16mm will work, but will give a bit more lever travel...
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                • #9
                  Brakes

                  I used the one from Mikes on my 79 SF, works great with SS lines. That braking system steve refers to gave me the creeps on my 81 LH. I've completely removed it and and went with the smaller rea rMC from a 79 (thanx Andreas) and will use the Mikes 16 mm front MC.
                  mack
                  79 XS 1100 SF Special
                  HERMES
                  original owner
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                  81 XS 1100 LH MNS
                  SPICA
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                  78 XS 11E
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                  • #10
                    Welcome

                    Originally posted by bikemight View Post
                    Hello. I'm new to the sight and recently bought a 1980 xs1100 mns. I'm looking for a new master cylinder. Does anyone no of a after market master cylinder that would work for my bike? I was interested in one that was on the mikes xs site but when i asked them if it would work for my bike they said they didn't have the schematics on the xs1100. So it may or may not work. Has anyone here used a master cylinder from the mikes xs site or know of another one that would work. Any help would be greatly appreciated thanks.
                    Welcome to the site, sounds like you may have already ordered the new M/C for your bike. If so, it should work fine, the smaller bore will increase the PSI but reduce the amount of fluid per leaver movement. All that means is your leaver may move more but will act stronger when engauged, especialy with the SS lines. What was wrong with the OEM M/S? Most can be cleaned inside with scotch bright and re assembeled with new fluid to work fine
                    1979 XS1100 Special (Mad Max, OEM) Current
                    1980 XS1100 Special
                    1990 V Max
                    1982 KZ750 LTD Twin
                    1986 700 FZR Yamaha Fazer (faster then expected)
                    1979 XS750 Special (my 1st Special)
                    1974 CB750-Four



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                    • #11
                      fwiw my bike 81R and the 80 standard are fitted
                      with 5/8 in bores, so theyll also work without
                      any problems.
                      pete


                      new owner of
                      08 gen2 hayabusa


                      former owner
                      1981 xs1100 RH (aus) (5N5)
                      zrx carbs
                      18mm float height
                      145 main jets
                      38 pilots
                      slide needle shimmed .5mm washer
                      fitted with v/stax and uni pod filters

                      [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pA8dwxmAVA&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL[/url]

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                      • #12
                        I bought the bike and the p/o had an existing problem of the brakes locking and not relieving pressure. He had also broke off the mirror and broke of a tap in the mirror mount. I bought a rebuild kit and cleaned it out meticulously. It was sparkling but after putting in the rebuild kit I still had the same trouble. I have already taken the mc off twice now with no new results. I will just feel safer knowing the master is new and can mount a new mirror. I want to get it on the road before the season changes. I appreciate the help and I'm sure this won't be my last question. I did end up ordering the 16mm mc from mikesxs and should have it on this weekend. Barring any rain on sunday should get it on the road.
                        -robin

                        1980 xs1100mns
                        Ss lines
                        Mikes xs 16 mm bore master
                        Superbike bars

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                        • #13
                          Sounds like the spooge hole in the existing M/C has not been cleaned out and is plugged. The Mirror mount is just one enormous PITA too.
                          2-79 XS1100 SF
                          2-78 XS1100 E Best bike Ever
                          80 XS 1100 SG Big bore kit but not fully running yet.
                          Couple of more parts bikes of which 2 more will live!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by bikemight View Post
                            I bought the bike and the p/o had an existing problem of the brakes locking and not relieving pressure.
                            thats a common problem with these m/c,
                            if u remove the top and look inside there are 2
                            holes the smallest hole (spooge hole) blocks up and
                            usually needs a poke with some wire to clear it, that hole
                            relieves the pressure and returns the fluid back to the
                            reservior. You could try this til u get ur new 1.
                            pete


                            new owner of
                            08 gen2 hayabusa


                            former owner
                            1981 xs1100 RH (aus) (5N5)
                            zrx carbs
                            18mm float height
                            145 main jets
                            38 pilots
                            slide needle shimmed .5mm washer
                            fitted with v/stax and uni pod filters

                            [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pA8dwxmAVA&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL[/url]

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                            • #15
                              Yup, spooge hole. It is a very small hole specifically for releasing the pressure.
                              Nathan
                              KD9ARL

                              μολὼν λαβέ

                              1978 XS1100E
                              K&N Filter
                              #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
                              OEM Exhaust
                              ATK Fork Brace
                              LED Dash lights
                              Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

                              Green Monster Coils
                              SS Brake Lines
                              Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

                              In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

                              Theodore Roosevelt

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