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  • #31
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    • #32
      Originally posted by XS1100_OEM4ME View Post

      Yes, I put in new fuel needles and seats from my K&L kits, still got gas flowing out the carbs and into the motor, Floats set exact, checked for float leaks, none detected, just gas pouring into the motor and good oil. I am feed up with these carbs and will do what ever to get them to stop pouring gas into my motor
      Make sure that with the bowls off, that you can blow into the vent lines and get air going into the carb bowl area. If the vents are for ANY reason blocked the carbs will overflow, and as long as their blocked nothing else you do will stop them from overflowing. One person had the gas and vent T's swapped, the larger ones go on the bottom, and if you get them swapped they are likely to block the vents and cause the carbs to overflow.

      Just something to check if their overflowing and you can't find anything else wrong.
      Cy

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      • #33
        Vent lines?

        Originally posted by cywelchjr View Post
        Make sure that with the bowls off, that you can blow into the vent lines and get air going into the carb bowl area. If the vents are for ANY reason blocked the carbs will overflow, and as long as their blocked nothing else you do will stop them from overflowing. One person had the gas and vent T's swapped, the larger ones go on the bottom, and if you get them swapped they are likely to block the vents and cause the carbs to overflow.

        Just something to check if their overflowing and you can't find anything else wrong.
        What do you mean by "vent lines" I have two "run" lines and two "prim" lines, one octy vac line, thats all the "lines" I have to the carbs What are the "vent lines" on a 79xs1100 special
        1979 XS1100 Special (Mad Max, OEM) Current
        1980 XS1100 Special
        1990 V Max
        1982 KZ750 LTD Twin
        1986 700 FZR Yamaha Fazer (faster then expected)
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        • #34
          On the T's between the carbs, the upper two are bowl vents that go back to the nipples on the airbox. The lower two are the fuel inlets. If you were using the upper T's as fuel inlets, that would for sure cause a flooding condition.
          2H7 (79) owned since '89
          3H3 owned since '06

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          • #35
            Are you certain you have 78-79 carbs? It is not uncommon at all for folks to mix and match carbs with years and models.

            If you have the later carbs, there is only two Ts total between the cabs. The 78-79 models have four Ts total, two lower for fuel, and two upper for vents. Another way to check is to see if there are three or four holes in the inlet bell side of the carbs, the fourth hole was added in the 80 model carbs as a vent, eliminating the need for the upper vent T.
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            • #36
              2H7 (79) owned since '89
              3H3 owned since '06

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              • #37
                Originally posted by XS1100_OEM4ME View Post
                What do you mean by "vent lines" I have two "run" lines and two "prim" lines, one octy vac line, thats all the "lines" I have to the carbs What are the "vent lines" on a 79xs1100 special
                Sounds like you've indentified the problem. The upper "T" between the carbs on '78 and '79 models are atmospheric vents for the float bowls. If you plumb gas into hem, you get flooding.
                Ken Talbot

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                • #38
                  confused

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                  Originally posted by bikerphil View Post
                  On the T's between the carbs, the upper two are bowl vents that go back to the nipples on the airbox. The lower two are the fuel inlets. If you were using the upper T's as fuel inlets, that would for sure cause a flooding condition.
                  Ok, my carbs have 2 "T's" between the bowl's of #1&#2 and #3&#4 carbs, those hoeses go to the octy then to the "run" setting on the petcock, but have a "t" fitting that goes to the "prim" on the petcock, what is this vents / nnipples
                  1979 XS1100 Special (Mad Max, OEM) Current
                  1980 XS1100 Special
                  1990 V Max
                  1982 KZ750 LTD Twin
                  1986 700 FZR Yamaha Fazer (faster then expected)
                  1979 XS750 Special (my 1st Special)
                  1974 CB750-Four



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                  1961 Catalina 389/1970 Torino GT 351/1967GTO 12to1 comp./ Roller cam/ T-10/ 456 gear/Tri-power/1967 GTO 400, 1969 Camaro, 1968 Z28, 2001 BMW M Roadster 0 to 60 in 4.5 sec. Jaguar XK8

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                  • #39
                    The 2 upper T's run directly to the 2 ports on the airbox, these are your bowl vents. The lower 2 T's run to the octy hoses as in the above diagram.
                    2H7 (79) owned since '89
                    3H3 owned since '06

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                    • #40
                      2H7 (79) owned since '89
                      3H3 owned since '06

                      "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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                      • #41
                        hi XS1100_OEM4ME,

                        heres a link to wildkats excellent write up on carbs,

                        http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread...ight=carbs+101

                        on the front page are pics of the late model carbs (sorry i couldnt find
                        any early model pics)
                        if ur carbs dont look like these then u have the early
                        model carbs.

                        and as the others have said, if u have the early model carbs
                        the upper t's need to be either vented to the air or attached
                        to the air box as in phils pic.
                        pete


                        new owner of
                        08 gen2 hayabusa


                        former owner
                        1981 xs1100 RH (aus) (5N5)
                        zrx carbs
                        18mm float height
                        145 main jets
                        38 pilots
                        slide needle shimmed .5mm washer
                        fitted with v/stax and uni pod filters

                        [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pA8dwxmAVA&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL[/url]

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                        • #42
                          Carbs

                          Originally posted by DGXSER View Post
                          Are you certain you have 78-79 carbs? It is not uncommon at all for folks to mix and match carbs with years and models.

                          If you have the later carbs, there is only two Ts total between the cabs. The 78-79 models have four Ts total, two lower for fuel, and two upper for vents. Another way to check is to see if there are three or four holes in the inlet bell side of the carbs, the fourth hole was added in the 80 model carbs as a vent, eliminating the need for the upper vent T.
                          Not sure after reading your post to the year of the carbs, though OEM for 1979 xs1100 special, brass floats, meaning 79 and before carbs, only lines are two "T's" from the bowles feeding the needle valves, they go to the octy and all the prim / T / petcock set up is OEM by the book and all the under seat / clymer / yamaha spec. No upper "T's" going to air filter from carbs No yamaha spec or clymers man or anything else shows that
                          1979 XS1100 Special (Mad Max, OEM) Current
                          1980 XS1100 Special
                          1990 V Max
                          1982 KZ750 LTD Twin
                          1986 700 FZR Yamaha Fazer (faster then expected)
                          1979 XS750 Special (my 1st Special)
                          1974 CB750-Four



                          Past/pres Car's
                          1961 Catalina 389/1970 Torino GT 351/1967GTO 12to1 comp./ Roller cam/ T-10/ 456 gear/Tri-power/1967 GTO 400, 1969 Camaro, 1968 Z28, 2001 BMW M Roadster 0 to 60 in 4.5 sec. Jaguar XK8

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                          • #43
                            can u take a pic of ur carbs?
                            they sound like the early model, but they're
                            all fitted with vent 't's.
                            pete


                            new owner of
                            08 gen2 hayabusa


                            former owner
                            1981 xs1100 RH (aus) (5N5)
                            zrx carbs
                            18mm float height
                            145 main jets
                            38 pilots
                            slide needle shimmed .5mm washer
                            fitted with v/stax and uni pod filters

                            [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pA8dwxmAVA&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL[/url]

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                            • #44
                              Lon, your carbs should have this setup, "A" being the vent and "B" being the fuel inlet. You should have these T's between carbs 1&2 and 3&4. The octy only hooks to "B".

                              2H7 (79) owned since '89
                              3H3 owned since '06

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                              • #45
                                And A is a vent that hooks to the airbox or at least is open to atmosphere.
                                Nathan
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