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    Valve Adjustment

    I just finished a valve adjustment using the mail order tool #MP 08-0020 I have heard on here that it can't be done. Just wanted to help anyone trying to use this tool to do an adj. 1st, you turn the cam till it is 100% valve open position. 2nd, install the tool in place and turn the cam SLOWLY AWAY FROM TOOL till the tool slips down enough to thread the screw by hand. This will only take a degree or two, then tighten the screw. Turn the cam AWAY FROM THE TOOL at the bottom till the lob is strait up. Remove - replace the shim as needed. 3rd turn the cam back to the tool MAKING SURE you don't hit the tool and BRAKE THE HEAD. Oil the cam lob and turn over a few times, then check with feeler gage. Hopes this helps any trying to use this tool, it is touchy but with some tweeking it works well
    1979 XS1100 Special (Mad Max, OEM) Current
    1980 XS1100 Special
    1990 V Max
    1982 KZ750 LTD Twin
    1986 700 FZR Yamaha Fazer (faster then expected)
    1979 XS750 Special (my 1st Special)
    1974 CB750-Four



    Past/pres Car's
    1961 Catalina 389/1970 Torino GT 351/1967GTO 12to1 comp./ Roller cam/ T-10/ 456 gear/Tri-power/1967 GTO 400, 1969 Camaro, 1968 Z28, 2001 BMW M Roadster 0 to 60 in 4.5 sec. Jaguar XK8
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  • #2
    I've been trying to tell them that for years but to no avail. I have absolutely no problem using mine. You just have to feel for the edge of the lifter and have the tool ONLY on that.

    BTW, if you lose the bolt for the tool (like I did), a valve cover bolt works fine.
    Greg

    Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

    ― Albert Einstein

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    • #3
      Never an issue with mine either!
      Nathan
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      OEM Exhaust
      ATK Fork Brace
      LED Dash lights
      Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters
      Green Monster Coils
      SS Brake Lines
      Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

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      • #4
        Mine works perfect too.

        2H7 (79) owned since '89
        3H3 owned since '06

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        • #5
          Phil, Did you 'modify' yours?? It looks like you ground it down some.

          I don't have one of these YET, but I think I might have to get one.

          When I had my cams out recently, i checked to see what shims I had installed so that way when the time came to replace a few I knew what I got already. Then I looked at the suplement of the manual and realized that the G specs changed and I've only got one valve that needs a shim swap, so for one shim this tool would be easier than pulling out the whole cam.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by GLoweVA View Post
            When I had my cams out recently, i checked to see what shims I had installed so that way when the time came to replace a few I knew what I got already. Then I looked at the suplement of the manual and realized that the G specs changed and I've only got one valve that needs a shim swap, so for one shim this tool would be easier than pulling out the whole cam.
            hi george,
            if u are only replacing 1 or 2 shims u dont need to pull the cam,
            if u loosen the cam nuts the cam will rise enough to be able to get
            a shim out. jat
            pete


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            zrx carbs
            18mm float height
            145 main jets
            38 pilots
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            • #7
              Yeah, I think the PO of the okieSPECIAL did that and didn't retorque the nuts right.

              I had a misfire issue and loud top end when I first got it so I pulled the VC and found some of the nuts had fallen off and all of them were loose.

              If you do it that way be certain to get things tightened properly.
              Greg

              Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

              ― Albert Einstein

              80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by GLoweVA View Post
                Phil, Did you 'modify' yours?? It looks like you ground it down some.
                Yes, I had to grind quite a bit off to get it to work properly. I also had to enlarge the bolt holes slightly.
                2H7 (79) owned since '89
                3H3 owned since '06

                "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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                • #9
                  The one I got worked great right out of the box, with some trial and error that is.
                  Greg

                  Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

                  ― Albert Einstein

                  80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

                  The list changes.

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                  • #10
                    Worker great

                    Mine worked great out of the box also, although I will add, you can't line it up and get the bolt in with the lobe all the way down/open. That is why I said you have to line it up as you rotate the lobe away from the tool a couple of degrees till it drops in place. The lifter is still down far enough for it to hold it down when tightened, to get the shim out
                    1979 XS1100 Special (Mad Max, OEM) Current
                    1980 XS1100 Special
                    1990 V Max
                    1982 KZ750 LTD Twin
                    1986 700 FZR Yamaha Fazer (faster then expected)
                    1979 XS750 Special (my 1st Special)
                    1974 CB750-Four



                    Past/pres Car's
                    1961 Catalina 389/1970 Torino GT 351/1967GTO 12to1 comp./ Roller cam/ T-10/ 456 gear/Tri-power/1967 GTO 400, 1969 Camaro, 1968 Z28, 2001 BMW M Roadster 0 to 60 in 4.5 sec. Jaguar XK8

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by bikerphil View Post
                      Yes, I had to grind quite a bit off to get it to work properly. I also had to enlarge the bolt holes slightly.
                      Is the motion pro tool the same as the yami one? I didn't hace to alter my yamaha one at all and it works perfect!
                      Nathan
                      KD9ARL

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                      1978 XS1100E
                      K&N Filter
                      #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
                      OEM Exhaust
                      ATK Fork Brace
                      LED Dash lights
                      Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters
                      Green Monster Coils
                      SS Brake Lines
                      Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

                      In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

                      Theodore Roosevelt

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                      • #12
                        Nate, I can't answer that, I've never used the Yami one.
                        2H7 (79) owned since '89
                        3H3 owned since '06

                        "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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                        • #13
                          Copy

                          Originally posted by natemoen View Post
                          Is the motion pro tool the same as the yami one? I didn't hace to alter my yamaha one at all and it works perfect!
                          It is suposed to be an exact copy of the yami tool. It only holds down the valve tapet body (not the shim) at the deck hight, the cam pushes the body well below this level, so if you install the tool just after the cam pushes the tapit body below the deck (far from wide open position) the cam lobe does not keep the tool from being installed correctly, if the cam lobe is to far down, it won't line up right
                          1979 XS1100 Special (Mad Max, OEM) Current
                          1980 XS1100 Special
                          1990 V Max
                          1982 KZ750 LTD Twin
                          1986 700 FZR Yamaha Fazer (faster then expected)
                          1979 XS750 Special (my 1st Special)
                          1974 CB750-Four



                          Past/pres Car's
                          1961 Catalina 389/1970 Torino GT 351/1967GTO 12to1 comp./ Roller cam/ T-10/ 456 gear/Tri-power/1967 GTO 400, 1969 Camaro, 1968 Z28, 2001 BMW M Roadster 0 to 60 in 4.5 sec. Jaguar XK8

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                          • #14
                            Every time I have used it I depress the shim all the way with the cam and then install the tool and then back the cam off. No clearance issues at all, so there must be a slight difference.
                            Nathan
                            KD9ARL

                            μολὼν λαβέ

                            1978 XS1100E
                            K&N Filter
                            #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
                            OEM Exhaust
                            ATK Fork Brace
                            LED Dash lights
                            Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters
                            Green Monster Coils
                            SS Brake Lines
                            Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

                            In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

                            Theodore Roosevelt

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                            • #15
                              Difference

                              Originally posted by natemoen View Post
                              Every time I have used it I depress the shim all the way with the cam and then install the tool and then back the cam off. No clearance issues at all, so there must be a slight difference.
                              There must be a differance then, that is probably why Phil ground his down. The one I have works fine, but you do have to have the tapit down just below the deck hight or it won't go in
                              1979 XS1100 Special (Mad Max, OEM) Current
                              1980 XS1100 Special
                              1990 V Max
                              1982 KZ750 LTD Twin
                              1986 700 FZR Yamaha Fazer (faster then expected)
                              1979 XS750 Special (my 1st Special)
                              1974 CB750-Four



                              Past/pres Car's
                              1961 Catalina 389/1970 Torino GT 351/1967GTO 12to1 comp./ Roller cam/ T-10/ 456 gear/Tri-power/1967 GTO 400, 1969 Camaro, 1968 Z28, 2001 BMW M Roadster 0 to 60 in 4.5 sec. Jaguar XK8

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