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    How important is it to have the spring and washer installed with the oil filter? Apparently I did not install them last fall. Fortunately I've only started the bike for short periods of time during my restoration.

    I just liberated a spring from my parts bike, but there was no washer. Can I get away without using the washer?

    David
    1981 XS1100 Special
    Previous Bikes
    1999 Honda Goldwing Aspencade 1500
    1983 Honda Goldwing Aspencade 1100
    1982 Honda CB900c
    1984 Honda vt750 Shadow. My son's bike now.
    1984 Honda vt500 Shadow

  • #2
    Originally posted by davidsymons53 View Post
    How important is it to have the spring and washer installed with the oil filter?
    Very important. The spring keeps the filter in position so that the oil goes through the filter. Without the washer, the spring can push though the rubber grommet, again allowing the filter to get out of position...
    Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

    '78E original owner - resto project
    '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
    '82 XJ rebuild project
    '80SG restified, red SOLD
    '79F parts...
    '81H more parts...

    Other current bikes:
    '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
    '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
    '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
    Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
    Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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    • #3
      Thanks, Steve.
      1981 XS1100 Special
      Previous Bikes
      1999 Honda Goldwing Aspencade 1500
      1983 Honda Goldwing Aspencade 1100
      1982 Honda CB900c
      1984 Honda vt750 Shadow. My son's bike now.
      1984 Honda vt500 Shadow

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      • #4
        Washer size...

        ID: 20mm
        OD: 30mm
        Thickness: 1mm
        2H7 (79) owned since '89
        3H3 owned since '06

        "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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        • #5
          if needed i have a spin on filter adapter that needs a home
          careful what you wish for.........you might get it

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          • #6
            Thanks Steve. I check the filter from the parts bike and found the washer (I thought was part of the filter).

            I found a parts diagram for the oil filter so I can check where the spring in the washer go. The parts diagram shows a ball and a spring and an o-ring in the top of the filter bolt. Neither my bike or the parts bike have the ball and the spring. They both have the spring down in the bottom of the filter bolt held in by at pin. How important are these two missing parts?

            David
            1981 XS1100 Special
            Previous Bikes
            1999 Honda Goldwing Aspencade 1500
            1983 Honda Goldwing Aspencade 1100
            1982 Honda CB900c
            1984 Honda vt750 Shadow. My son's bike now.
            1984 Honda vt500 Shadow

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            • #7
              The ball and spring are the oil filter bypass (to allow oil flow in case of a clogged filter). If the spring (held in by the pin) is there, it's a pretty good bet the ball is there too...

              If you want to check, you can drive out the pin with a pin punch, but it's a real pain to reinstall.
              Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

              '78E original owner - resto project
              '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
              '82 XJ rebuild project
              '80SG restified, red SOLD
              '79F parts...
              '81H more parts...

              Other current bikes:
              '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
              '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
              '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
              Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
              Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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              • #8
                Steve, I think I will let the "sleeping dogs lie”or should it be sleeping gremlins?

                David
                1981 XS1100 Special
                Previous Bikes
                1999 Honda Goldwing Aspencade 1500
                1983 Honda Goldwing Aspencade 1100
                1982 Honda CB900c
                1984 Honda vt750 Shadow. My son's bike now.
                1984 Honda vt500 Shadow

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by davidsymons53 View Post
                  Thanks Steve. I check the filter from the parts bike and found the washer (I thought was part of the filter).

                  I found a parts diagram for the oil filter so I can check where the spring in the washer go. The parts diagram shows a ball and a spring and an o-ring in the top of the filter bolt. Neither my bike or the parts bike have the ball and the spring. They both have the spring down in the bottom of the filter bolt held in by at pin. How important are these two missing parts?

                  David
                  I'd talk to mxmikie about that spin on oil filter adapter. That thing is the bomb. No more oil all over the place changing the filter, easy to find common filter (same filter used by most modern honda's) and if your nervous about it getting punctured jcwhitney has a cover you can put on it to protect it. But it's easy to install, and the thing just work great! I can't sing TC's praises enough on the SOFA.
                  Cy

                  1980 XS1100G (Brutus) w/81H Engine
                  Duplicolor Mirage Paint Job (Purple/Green)
                  Vetter Windjammer IV
                  Vetter hard bags & Trunk
                  OEM Luggage Rack
                  Jardine Spaghetti 4-2 exhaust system
                  Spade Fuse Box
                  Turn Signal Auto Cancel Mod
                  750 FD Mod
                  TC Spin on Oil Filter Adapter (temp removed)
                  XJ1100 Front Footpegs
                  XJ1100 Shocks

                  I was always taught to respect my elders, but it keeps getting harder to find one.

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