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    Just took my master apart on the mns I'm restoring and its full of crud must be old brake fluid what have you guys found best to clean out the old crud some type of solvent or just use brake fluid

  • #2
    Safe to use solvents are...

    Brake cleaner
    Clean brake fluid
    Soap and water
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    • #3
      If the master cylinder is completely assembled you can use hot soapy water to clean the parts as long as you dry things off well. Other than that, the only thing you should use on internal brake parts is clean brake fluid.
      Cy

      1980 XS1100G (Brutus) w/81H Engine
      Duplicolor Mirage Paint Job (Purple/Green)
      Vetter Windjammer IV
      Vetter hard bags & Trunk
      OEM Luggage Rack
      Jardine Spaghetti 4-2 exhaust system
      Spade Fuse Box
      Turn Signal Auto Cancel Mod
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      TC Spin on Oil Filter Adapter (temp removed)
      XJ1100 Front Footpegs
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      I was always taught to respect my elders, but it keeps getting harder to find one.

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      • #4
        Remember that crud is also in the brake lines and the calipers. The whole system will have to be cleaned.
        1979XS1100SF
        K&N's and drilled airbox
        Jardine 4in1
        Dunlop Elite 3's
        JBM slide diaphragms
        142.5 main jets
        45 pilot jets
        T.C.'s fusebox & SOFA
        750/850 FD mod.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Toolmaker Tim View Post
          Remember that crud is also in the brake lines and the calipers. The whole system will have to be cleaned.
          Yep, ditto what he said. If it were my bike, I'd take a few hours and jsut pull the entire system off the bike. Start by using the MC to push the pistons out of the caliper if you can. But open it up and dismantle all the components. Clean them all in nice clean brake cleaner or new brake fluid.
          Life is what happens while your planning everything else!

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          81 XS1100 Special - Humpty Dumpty
          80 XS1100 Special - Project Resurrection


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          93 GSX600F
          80 XS1100 Special - Ruby
          81 XS1100 Special
          81 CB750 C
          80 CB750 C
          78 XS750

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          • #6
            Agree with the last 2 about the full disassemblely.
            Nathan
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            1978 XS1100E
            K&N Filter
            #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
            OEM Exhaust
            ATK Fork Brace
            LED Dash lights
            Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

            Green Monster Coils
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            Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

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            • #7
              I'll be a bit of a contrarian on this and say you can use pretty much any solvent/cleaner as long as you are cleaning only the metal parts. You DO NOT want to expose any rubber brake parts to petroleum-based solvents as it will ruin them.

              If you do use a solvent, you do need to thoroughly clean any solvent residue off; hot soapy water will do that.

              Brake fluid makes a lousy cleaner sometimes... not to mention it's a bit expensive for that...
              Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

              '78E original owner - resto project
              '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
              '82 XJ rebuild project
              '80SG restified, red SOLD
              '79F parts...
              '81H more parts...

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              • #8
                I'll agree there, which is why I stated hot soapy water, which can be used on pretty much anything but the brake lines, as long as you make sure you get things dry, and it won't damage the rubber either, but will generally clean better even than the brake cleaner.
                Cy

                1980 XS1100G (Brutus) w/81H Engine
                Duplicolor Mirage Paint Job (Purple/Green)
                Vetter Windjammer IV
                Vetter hard bags & Trunk
                OEM Luggage Rack
                Jardine Spaghetti 4-2 exhaust system
                Spade Fuse Box
                Turn Signal Auto Cancel Mod
                750 FD Mod
                TC Spin on Oil Filter Adapter (temp removed)
                XJ1100 Front Footpegs
                XJ1100 Shocks

                I was always taught to respect my elders, but it keeps getting harder to find one.

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                • #9
                  I've read that the "crud" is deteriorating brake line which is one of the reasons they are supposed to be replaced every 2yrs.

                  Whether that's true or not, my $75 braided lines were a cheap investment for me to feel safer.
                  1980 XS1100G
                  -4:2 exhaust
                  -Pods
                  -Who knows what the future holds..

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                  • #10
                    Just a tip for getting the piston out of the caliper: If you've already got the Master Cylinder taken apart, you can use compressed air to push the piston out. Just be mindful that it can be stuck and then come out in a hurry, so don't get your fingers pinched (or sheared off), blow brake fluid into your eyes, or shoot the piston across your shop. It's a good idea to start with the air pressure dialed down low.
                    '80 SG with motor from a '82 XJ

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                    • #11
                      Master cylinders have tiny orifaces that easily clog. I took the wire from a bread bag tie to chase flecks of crud out of mine.

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