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  • Lbrown311
    XStremely XSive
    • May 2011
    • 311
    • Minneapolis, Minn.
    #1

    Carb clean noob

    So I took my carbs off today cuz I got a wild hair up my...(you know what) and I have them completely torn apart. One thing I noticed is that my no.4 main jet had a rigged up washer for it made of something other than brass...is this a part I can find to replace this home made washer or is it fine the way it is? Also I am of course new at this and I scared up the outside of the emulsion tube/needle jet, is this something that I need to replace? Otherwise I did find my gas in the air box problem. No.2 and No.4 seats and needles didn't even close fully and on No.4 the needle wasn't seating at all. Good news is that I am less nervous about this process now and should have it back together by Monday. Also...what is the best way to clean the carb bodies...just spray the heck outa them with carb cleaner? Heard soaking ruins some seal on the butterfly or something. Any tips would be greatly appreciated. My idle mixture screws were very easy to get out except one of the rubber o-rings jumped outa my hand when I grabbed it. Hopefully with luck I will find it tomorrow LOL. Working on a large work bench so It couldn't have gone far but those things are pretty effin tiny.
    I will also be getting new tires and doing regular maintenance during this process and hopefully get that beast running like it should. I will keep you XSive's posted.
    Thanks
    1980 XS1100SG "Black Mamba" 28K
    1979 XS1100F 33k (Current Project)
    1981 XS1100H "Blue Balls" (Crashed and under repair )

    1978 XS1100E "Partsy"

    Work Hard, Play Harder!
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    • yamtom
      XStremely XSive
      • Sep 2009
      • 275
      • Midland Michigan
      #2
      Carb Cleaning 101

      Hi,

      Paste the title of this message into the search bar, and read all about kats carb cleaning one oh one, since you didnt mention that you read it yet, JAT. This pertains to the old style carbs, read up on the new style and the hybrid style too if you have the new ones or the hybrids.
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      80 MNS 11 pods,georgefix kit,stock jets, HD Sporty muffs
      79 XS 11 Special, Emgo pods, stock jets, with Pacifico fairing, hard bags, intact stock pipes Sold
      83 Yammi Venture with custom footboards, 20k miles.
      83 Yammi Venture parts bike

      99 Valkyrie shield and bags 37k miles like new
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        • yamtom
          XStremely XSive
          • Sep 2009
          • 275
          • Midland Michigan
          #3
          forgot about soaking the seals

          Regarding the soaking of the seals when soaking the carb bank. If its official carb cleaner, like automotive carb cleaner, it will ruin the seals to soak them. If you use yami carb cleaner or regular pine sol soap straight, the seals will survive the dip.
          Bikes Now.
          80 MNS 11 pods,georgefix kit,stock jets, HD Sporty muffs
          79 XS 11 Special, Emgo pods, stock jets, with Pacifico fairing, hard bags, intact stock pipes Sold
          83 Yammi Venture with custom footboards, 20k miles.
          83 Yammi Venture parts bike

          99 Valkyrie shield and bags 37k miles like new
          08 ZX 14 Kawa Ninja 6k miles Sold

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            • WMarshy
              XS-XJ Guru
              • Apr 2009
              • 2402
              • Mexico NY
              #4
              If you still have the carbs in pieces you can soak the entire thing in water and pinesol. Use a brass brush or plastic to give them a good scrub. Letting them sit over night does wonders. Then just rinse with warm water and use compressed air to dry them. Either way, I consider compressed air necessary while cleaning carbs, everything should get a blast prior to assembly.

              In regards to the emulsion tube, you might want to post a pic of it otherwise its hard to give you good advice not knowing the amount of damage... as far as the washer, you might want to see if someone has an extra one they will send you...

              Do a search and you will find lots of tips on carb cleaning carbs, best advice anyone can give you is do a little tip searching before you go to work, might save you time and frustration. Also, put your model in your signature so we know without asking, the carbs differ from year to year.

              Welcome!
              '79 XS11 F
              Stock except K&N

              '79 XS11 SF
              Stock, no title.

              '84 Chevy K-10 "Big Blue"
              GM 350, Muncie SM465, NP208, GM 10 Bolt with 3.42gears turnin 31x10.5 Baja Claws

              "What they do have is an implacable, unrelenting presence and movement that bespeaks massive power lurking behind paint and chrome. They don't wail like a screeching ninja, the don't rumble like a harley. They just growl like a spactic, stressed out badger waiting to rip your face off and eat your soul." Trainzz~RIP~

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                • Titbit21
                  XSive
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 76
                  • Kent, Ohio
                  #5
                  I would hate to start a new thread....

                  My carbs just got finished being cleaned and rebuilt. The problem is i took them off months ago and i dont remember the way it was hooked up as far as the fuel lines go. I have four lines 2 short and 2 long. Im slightly going to change this to add some fuel filters. Could someone tell me which ports on the carbs go where? I have only owned this thing since feb. and just finished rebuilding, painting, and all the other stuff, and this is my last step to finally see what it is like to ride one of these beasts. Please help
                  '78E

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                    • natemoen
                      Master of XSology
                      • May 2010
                      • 8640
                      • Fargo
                      #6
                      The 2 short lines go on the top barbs on the carbs and then plug into the small nipples in the airbox. The bottom 2 barbs on the carbs are where the fuel lines go.
                      Nathan
                      KD9ARL

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                      1978 XS1100E
                      K&N Filter
                      #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
                      OEM Exhaust
                      ATK Fork Brace
                      LED Dash lights
                      Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters
                      Green Monster Coils
                      SS Brake Lines
                      Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

                      In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

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                        • Lbrown311
                          XStremely XSive
                          • May 2011
                          • 311
                          • Minneapolis, Minn.
                          #7
                          Sorry lack of INFO

                          I have read carb cleaning 101 like 5 times I will put a pic of my emulsion tube on here in a bit and try to get some answers. otherwise i did find a place online that makes brass washers to very specific sizes. so if i can't find one at least i can order one. I just went to 5 innings of the MN Twins game and now I am gonna go back to work. Sounds like I need to get some Pinesol and soak the boddies over night. Thanks for the tips. Also I saw a Forum on here for the appropriate jetting for certain upgrades. Like mine has a 4-1 exhaust system. I wanna put the appropriate jets in for the exhaust upgrade. Otherwise there is a guy who will set up the right jets for you on Ebay if you tell him what model and any aftermarket upgrades you've done to it. Is this adviceable? Let me know. I will keep on the updates. Thanks again for the tips.

                          P.S. bike is a 1980 XS SG
                          1980 XS1100SG "Black Mamba" 28K
                          1979 XS1100F 33k (Current Project)
                          1981 XS1100H "Blue Balls" (Crashed and under repair )

                          1978 XS1100E "Partsy"

                          Work Hard, Play Harder!

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                            • WMarshy
                              XS-XJ Guru
                              • Apr 2009
                              • 2402
                              • Mexico NY
                              #8
                              A 4-1 isn't enough alone to warrent increasing the jets, if you were going with pods and a 4-1 then I would say yes. I had a 4-1 and a K&N filter and still didn't see a need to increase jets... someone might come along and say different though, it just all depends how your runnin (check plug color). You should be able to make the necessary adjustments with the jets you have...
                              '79 XS11 F
                              Stock except K&N

                              '79 XS11 SF
                              Stock, no title.

                              '84 Chevy K-10 "Big Blue"
                              GM 350, Muncie SM465, NP208, GM 10 Bolt with 3.42gears turnin 31x10.5 Baja Claws

                              "What they do have is an implacable, unrelenting presence and movement that bespeaks massive power lurking behind paint and chrome. They don't wail like a screeching ninja, the don't rumble like a harley. They just growl like a spactic, stressed out badger waiting to rip your face off and eat your soul." Trainzz~RIP~

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                                • SFerinTEXAS
                                  XSive Maximus
                                  • Jun 2006
                                  • 876
                                  #9
                                  What jets do you have ?
                                  79SF
                                  XJ11
                                  78E

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                                    • Titbit21
                                      XSive
                                      • Feb 2011
                                      • 76
                                      • Kent, Ohio
                                      #10
                                      thanks natemoen!
                                      '78E

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                                        • WMarshy
                                          XS-XJ Guru
                                          • Apr 2009
                                          • 2402
                                          • Mexico NY
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by SFerinTEXAS
                                          What jets do you have ?
                                          Stock jetting, 137.5 mains and 32.5 pilots...
                                          '79 XS11 F
                                          Stock except K&N

                                          '79 XS11 SF
                                          Stock, no title.

                                          '84 Chevy K-10 "Big Blue"
                                          GM 350, Muncie SM465, NP208, GM 10 Bolt with 3.42gears turnin 31x10.5 Baja Claws

                                          "What they do have is an implacable, unrelenting presence and movement that bespeaks massive power lurking behind paint and chrome. They don't wail like a screeching ninja, the don't rumble like a harley. They just growl like a spactic, stressed out badger waiting to rip your face off and eat your soul." Trainzz~RIP~

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                                            • DGXSER
                                              Doctor of XSology(Deceased)
                                              • Nov 2008
                                              • 12001
                                              • Cincinnati, Ohio
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by WMarshy
                                              Stock jetting, 137.5 mains and 32.5 pilots...
                                              Errr...42.5 pilots??
                                              Life is what happens while your planning everything else!

                                              When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt.

                                              81 XS1100 Special - Humpty Dumpty
                                              80 XS1100 Special - Project Resurrection


                                              Previously owned
                                              93 GSX600F
                                              80 XS1100 Special - Ruby
                                              81 XS1100 Special
                                              81 CB750 C
                                              80 CB750 C
                                              78 XS750

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                                                • WMarshy
                                                  XS-XJ Guru
                                                  • Apr 2009
                                                  • 2402
                                                  • Mexico NY
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by Lbrown311
                                                  .... Also I saw a Forum on here for the appropriate jetting for certain upgrades. Like mine has a 4-1 exhaust system. I wanna put the appropriate jets in for the exhaust upgrade. Otherwise there is a guy who will set up the right jets for you on Ebay if you tell him what model and any aftermarket upgrades you've done to it. Is this adviceable?

                                                  P.S. bike is a 1980 XS SG
                                                  There is a jetting post on here that gives you a rule of thumb on jetting for mods. Just remember that its only a rule of thumb and jetting requirements are dependent on a lot of environmental factors as well as your bikes mechanical efficiency. I don't know who your contact is on ebay but you wont find any better jetting advice than this forum. If your only mod is exhaust you shouldn't need jetting, most people can get away with turning out the mixture screws enough...
                                                  '79 XS11 F
                                                  Stock except K&N

                                                  '79 XS11 SF
                                                  Stock, no title.

                                                  '84 Chevy K-10 "Big Blue"
                                                  GM 350, Muncie SM465, NP208, GM 10 Bolt with 3.42gears turnin 31x10.5 Baja Claws

                                                  "What they do have is an implacable, unrelenting presence and movement that bespeaks massive power lurking behind paint and chrome. They don't wail like a screeching ninja, the don't rumble like a harley. They just growl like a spactic, stressed out badger waiting to rip your face off and eat your soul." Trainzz~RIP~

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                                                    • WMarshy
                                                      XS-XJ Guru
                                                      • Apr 2009
                                                      • 2402
                                                      • Mexico NY
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by DGXSER
                                                      Errr...42.5 pilots??
                                                      Thanks for pointing out my typo.

                                                      I should add that, the 137.5 and 43.5's are in my '79 F....
                                                      Last edited by WMarshy; 05-14-2011, 07:30 PM.
                                                      '79 XS11 F
                                                      Stock except K&N

                                                      '79 XS11 SF
                                                      Stock, no title.

                                                      '84 Chevy K-10 "Big Blue"
                                                      GM 350, Muncie SM465, NP208, GM 10 Bolt with 3.42gears turnin 31x10.5 Baja Claws

                                                      "What they do have is an implacable, unrelenting presence and movement that bespeaks massive power lurking behind paint and chrome. They don't wail like a screeching ninja, the don't rumble like a harley. They just growl like a spactic, stressed out badger waiting to rip your face off and eat your soul." Trainzz~RIP~

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                                                        • SFerinTEXAS
                                                          XSive Maximus
                                                          • Jun 2006
                                                          • 876
                                                          #15
                                                          Like I said.
                                                          What jets do you have ?
                                                          Not you marshy, lbrown
                                                          Last edited by SFerinTEXAS; 05-14-2011, 07:42 PM.
                                                          79SF
                                                          XJ11
                                                          78E

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