Front Air Command

[MrOzz]

Any one seen this or used this?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...K%3AMEWAX%3AIT

Thoughts, opinions?

I was thinking of getting it for my 80SG. I dont see why it would not work.

Thanks All


Ozz

[natemoen]

Interesting.

[crazy steve]

Won't work on your SG; the fork caps have a different thread between the Special and the standards. And this isn't all the bits anyway. The 'rear set' he mentions is the heart of the system (consisting of a small compressor, a pair of air shocks, and more wiring/air lines) that allowed on-the-fly suspension adjustments. I've never seen a XS11 version, but have seen these on a few 'wings. Without the complete system, you'd have to mod this for manual adjustment if you had standard forks.

Your SG should have air adjustable forks already...

[MrOzz]

Won't work on your SG; the fork caps have a different thread between the Special and the standards. And this isn't all the bits anyway. The 'rear set' he mentions is the heart of the system (consisting of a small compressor, a pair of air shocks, and more wiring/air lines) that allowed on-the-fly suspension adjustments. I've never seen a XS11 version, but have seen these on a few 'wings. Without the complete system, you'd have to mod this for manual adjustment if you had standard forks.

Your SG should have air adjustable forks already...

I saw it not a "complete" kit for front and back.

I do have the front air adjustable forks. I put a windshield on mine and I cannot get to the fills cause the windshield brackets are in the way.

I was thinking of using this as a easy way of adjusting the fronts.

Off to the drawing board to figure something else. LOL

Thanks for the thoughts

[b.walker5]

Absolutely no reason why those wont work for the way you want to use them. The thread on the fork caps may be different, but the thread on the valve stems wont be. Just unscrew the valves from the caps and swap them for the new valves. You do, however need a compressor to pump them up, but if you dont want to do it 'on the fly' then any air supply can be used.

Might be easier though just to mount a remote schreader valve in the middle tee'd into permenant hoses and fittings onto the existing fill valves. Many motorcross bikes use this type of thing so they shouldnt be hard to find.

[petejw]

hey brian,
i was thinking of doing something similar to what u were
saying, but when talking to one of the boys who had something
similar on another bike (phil on xs11au), he said when cornering the side of the fork that would compress would push air into the other fork as it expanded and made handling feel strange, ive never tried it tho but made sense, maybe adding another valve to close off the system might be an option.

[natemoen]

Yeah, there would need to be some sort of check valve of some sort to stop the air going from one tube to the other.

Also I wouldn't doubt if that company had some funky thread size so that people couldn't customize the system anyway, so the valves wouldn't thread into the fork caps.

[b.walker5]

The threads on the OEM valve caps will be metric and the fleabay kit is likely to be imperial, but any half way decent tap and die set, and some thread sealer, will fix that. Seriously, you guys let way too many obstacles get in your way, and stop some really simple things from happening.

Pete, Nate is right, you would need some sort of check valve, but if I were doing this I would look for one someplace that deals in pneumatics, or hydraulics, or a hobby store.

[petejw]

yeah i know, thats what i said in the last line,
i tried at a cpl of suspension shops but couldnt find anything to suit,
but didnt think of a hydraulics place tho.

progressive sold a kit but was way 2 expensive for what came with it,
(air valve, plastic hose and a cpl of fittings for the fork valves) just short of
$90 a cpl of years ago.
and nothing that would stop the air flow between tubes.

[b.walker5]

Try a truck supplies store as well. Lots of pneumatics on trucks so theres bound to be something that will fit, or can be adapted. Think like a Kiwi mate, if it doesnt fit first time, get a bigger hammer..

[DGXSER]

Realistically, why would I want the pressure in one fork to be different than the other (in the fronts anyway)?? I can't think of a point where one would move different than the other, at least not enough to vary that pressure.

[natemoen]

Realistically, why would I want the pressure in one fork to be different than the other (in the fronts anyway)?? I can't think of a point where one would move different than the other, at least not enough to vary that pressure.

You don't want different pressures in the forks, that's the point. When you turn you are putting a side load on the forks ons that would push the inside forks more. So if you had the forks connected by an air line and no check valve it would force air from the inside fork to the outside fork. This probably happens to a very small degree normally anyways but the air connection would exacerbate it....sounds like a good reason for a fork brace.

[DGXSER]

Nate,

I thought of that, but the axle would make the forks compress relatively equally. I do not see one fork getting any meaningful change in pressure over the other. Certainly not enough that having them tied together would cause any change in handling.

[b.walker5]

Hadn't thought of that. Good point, there shouldnt be any difference at all, or at least very minimal.

[cywelchjr]

Hadn't thought of that. Good point, there shouldnt be any difference at all, or at least very minimal.

Especially if you were to add a fork brace to go with it and tie the two forks together.