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  • Gyrogearloose
    Truly XSive
    • Sep 2007
    • 162
    • Coupeville, WA

    #1

    rear brake pedal very stiff return

    To make a long story shorter; dragging rear brakes on my 80' Special. OK. Did the spooge hole thing (have done it before, thanks to posted pics and steps), still the pedal wants to stay down. Hmmm. I separated the actuating rod from the MC, AND,..pedal is VERY STIFF, definitely won't return with it's own spring. It must be forced back up into the neutral position. I checked CLYMERS, and it only gives lubrication instructions for the STANDARD (fitting under cap on the pedal mounting rod). Do I separate the pedal from the rod and then knock the rod back through the frame so I can lube it? What?...I don't like to hammer or force anything without some more knowledge. Thanks to all responders.
    Geno
  • rpgoerlich
    XSive Maximus
    • Dec 2007
    • 643
    • Katy, Tx

    #2
    Had the same thing on one that sat outside for 25years. Took the pedal off after disconnecting the push rod linkage and drove it out of the frame. Had lots of clean up on it and the frame as it was completely rusted tight. You'll want to make sure you don't mess up the splines where the pedal mounts. Also be sure to lube it up well and have the spring set correctly when re-assembling it.
    Richard

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    • natemoen
      Master of XSology
      • May 2010
      • 8640
      • Fargo

      #3
      How does that spring actually sit? Sometimes things come apart before you have time to remember how it is put together....
      Nathan
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      • Gyrogearloose
        Truly XSive
        • Sep 2007
        • 162
        • Coupeville, WA

        #4
        Thanks rpgoerlich, I guess parts wear out and get stiff with age...like me. I hope my problem won't be rust though. Heh. 69 April 5th.
        Geno

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        • CatatonicBug
          Master of XSology
          • Oct 2008
          • 6117
          • Clinton, UT

          #5
          That shaft should just slide back and forth in the frame. Remove the pedal and tap it toward the frame. Be careful of the brake light switch, and the little spring that connects it to that shaft. You don't want to stretch it out. Otherwise, yes - remove it, clean and lube it, and put it back in.
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          • Gyrogearloose
            Truly XSive
            • Sep 2007
            • 162
            • Coupeville, WA

            #6
            Good tip. I'll be mindful of how it sits, so I'll be able to put'er back together. Thanks natemoen.
            Geno

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            • Gyrogearloose
              Truly XSive
              • Sep 2007
              • 162
              • Coupeville, WA

              #7
              Good advice all..."thanks to all that have went before".... I'm on my way.
              Geno

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              • natemoen
                Master of XSology
                • May 2010
                • 8640
                • Fargo

                #8
                I am actually asking the question too.......
                Nathan
                KD9ARL

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                1978 XS1100E
                K&N Filter
                #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
                OEM Exhaust
                ATK Fork Brace
                LED Dash lights
                Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

                Green Monster Coils
                SS Brake Lines
                Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

                In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

                Theodore Roosevelt

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                • crazy steve
                  XS-XJ Guru MODERATOR
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 7932
                  • Beautiful outer Yelm, WA

                  #9
                  Might be a good time to drill/tap a zerk fitting in there so this doesn't come back...
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                  '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
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                  • Gyrogearloose
                    Truly XSive
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 162
                    • Coupeville, WA

                    #10
                    Now that's another good idea; the middle part of the shaft is smaller diameter..good place for grease, and the fitting. thanks. P.S., Done yours?
                    Geno

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                    • rpgoerlich
                      XSive Maximus
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 643
                      • Katy, Tx

                      #11
                      Originally posted by natemoen
                      How does that spring actually sit? Sometimes things come apart before you have time to remember how it is put together....
                      Been a while, but it hooks over top of the arm on the shaft just in front of the pivot for the push rod. The other end slips into a notch/cavity in the frame IIRC. As you load the spring push the shaft into the frame then release against the stop bolt.
                      Richard

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                      • crazy steve
                        XS-XJ Guru MODERATOR
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 7932
                        • Beautiful outer Yelm, WA

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Gyrogearloose
                        Now that's another good idea; the middle part of the shaft is smaller diameter..good place for grease, and the fitting. thanks. P.S., Done yours?
                        Don't have to, mine are standards... But it wouldn't take much to do...
                        Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

                        '78E original owner - resto project
                        '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
                        '82 XJ rebuild project
                        '80SG restified, red SOLD
                        '79F parts...
                        '81H more parts...

                        Other current bikes:
                        '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
                        '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
                        '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
                        Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
                        Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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