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  • Cylinder Honing

    I am going to have to buy a ball hone so I can rering this beast. Anyone have any suggestions for appropriate hone grit to use? Or any advice for doing the actual honing itself?
    Nathan
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  • #2
    Hey Nate,

    I did a search and found the manufacturer of the ball hones site, took a while to find it, but I found this page:
    http://www.brushresearch.com/literature.php?type=2
    And at the bottom is a PDF file/book they have to help determine what grit and such you would want to use. I didn't D/L it or look at it, but looks like they have lots of info there!

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    • #3
      I will have to give that a read, thanks TC.
      Nathan
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      1978 XS1100E
      K&N Filter
      #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
      OEM Exhaust
      ATK Fork Brace
      LED Dash lights
      Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

      Green Monster Coils
      SS Brake Lines
      Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

      In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

      Theodore Roosevelt

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      • #4
        hi nate,
        im in the process of doing the same thing,
        u can also use a honing stone,
        the main thing is getting a good cross hatch,
        keeping the hone moving up and down,
        and getting rid of all the glaze in the cylinders.
        let us know how u go.
        pete


        new owner of
        08 gen2 hayabusa


        former owner
        1981 xs1100 RH (aus) (5N5)
        zrx carbs
        18mm float height
        145 main jets
        38 pilots
        slide needle shimmed .5mm washer
        fitted with v/stax and uni pod filters

        [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pA8dwxmAVA&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL[/url]

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        • #5
          http://basisnz.co.nz/product.pasp?ca...productid=2698

          This is what I use. Stones are replaceable with your grit of choice, and the flat stones will show up any pitting or imperfections in the bore better than a ball hone will.
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          • #6
            thats the one im after Brian,
            what grit have u been using with it?
            is the 280 to course?

            the only thing to be careful about using these
            is not to go to far past the bottom of the cylinders
            other wise the thing expands and can go to pieces.
            pete


            new owner of
            08 gen2 hayabusa


            former owner
            1981 xs1100 RH (aus) (5N5)
            zrx carbs
            18mm float height
            145 main jets
            38 pilots
            slide needle shimmed .5mm washer
            fitted with v/stax and uni pod filters

            [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pA8dwxmAVA&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL[/url]

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            • #7
              I have straight stone hones but have never been able to get a cross hatch with them. Ball hones are pretty fool proof.

              What are the xs cylinder sleeves made of?
              Nathan
              KD9ARL

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              1978 XS1100E
              K&N Filter
              #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
              OEM Exhaust
              ATK Fork Brace
              LED Dash lights
              Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

              Green Monster Coils
              SS Brake Lines
              Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

              In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

              Theodore Roosevelt

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              • #8
                lol
                ive never used the ball type before,
                with the stones u need to consistently keep
                moving them up and down.

                the sleeves are steel.

                u putting new standard rings in nate?
                ive bought the .25 over size rings from ebay that
                ill file down the end gaps.
                pete


                new owner of
                08 gen2 hayabusa


                former owner
                1981 xs1100 RH (aus) (5N5)
                zrx carbs
                18mm float height
                145 main jets
                38 pilots
                slide needle shimmed .5mm washer
                fitted with v/stax and uni pod filters

                [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pA8dwxmAVA&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL[/url]

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                • #9
                  .25 over is what I got. Last summer I was buring oil at about 1-1.5 quart every 50-100 miles so I pulled the jugs and gave a quick hone with my straight stones (i mostly only ever use them for a rough first hone so I dont care about cross hatch, cause I can't ever get.it anyways) and put her back together. Didn't really solve the oil problem and I actually lost.some compression from that. So now its a more thorough and proper job this time.
                  Nathan
                  KD9ARL

                  μολὼν λαβέ

                  1978 XS1100E
                  K&N Filter
                  #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
                  OEM Exhaust
                  ATK Fork Brace
                  LED Dash lights
                  Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

                  Green Monster Coils
                  SS Brake Lines
                  Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

                  In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

                  Theodore Roosevelt

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                  • #10
                    me too,
                    been spending more on oil than fuel atm.
                    pete


                    new owner of
                    08 gen2 hayabusa


                    former owner
                    1981 xs1100 RH (aus) (5N5)
                    zrx carbs
                    18mm float height
                    145 main jets
                    38 pilots
                    slide needle shimmed .5mm washer
                    fitted with v/stax and uni pod filters

                    [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pA8dwxmAVA&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL[/url]

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                    • #11
                      It's almost like driving a special, they have to stop for gas every 100 or so miles, and I had to stop for oil......oil is more expensive though
                      Nathan
                      KD9ARL

                      μολὼν λαβέ

                      1978 XS1100E
                      K&N Filter
                      #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
                      OEM Exhaust
                      ATK Fork Brace
                      LED Dash lights
                      Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

                      Green Monster Coils
                      SS Brake Lines
                      Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

                      In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

                      Theodore Roosevelt

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                      • #12
                        i ride a special/sport.... :-)


                        i was running 70n weight oil for
                        old worn out engines, that was better,
                        but still worked out expensive as it was
                        more than twice the price of the cheaper stuff.
                        pete


                        new owner of
                        08 gen2 hayabusa


                        former owner
                        1981 xs1100 RH (aus) (5N5)
                        zrx carbs
                        18mm float height
                        145 main jets
                        38 pilots
                        slide needle shimmed .5mm washer
                        fitted with v/stax and uni pod filters

                        [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pA8dwxmAVA&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL[/url]

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                        • #13
                          Yeah I went to 80/90 for awhile just to see what would happen and it was still burning, just a little slower.
                          Nathan
                          KD9ARL

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                          1978 XS1100E
                          K&N Filter
                          #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
                          OEM Exhaust
                          ATK Fork Brace
                          LED Dash lights
                          Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

                          Green Monster Coils
                          SS Brake Lines
                          Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

                          In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

                          Theodore Roosevelt

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                          • #14
                            Anyone have any thoughts on a 73mm 240 grit silicon carbide hone?
                            Nathan
                            KD9ARL

                            μολὼν λαβέ

                            1978 XS1100E
                            K&N Filter
                            #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
                            OEM Exhaust
                            ATK Fork Brace
                            LED Dash lights
                            Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

                            Green Monster Coils
                            SS Brake Lines
                            Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

                            In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

                            Theodore Roosevelt

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                            • #15
                              Composition

                              I suppose we would need to know the composition of the steel in our cylinders, if we follow the flex hone chart.
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