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  • #16
    I should have mentioned also that somebody could check my results on a in-bike installation by simply bypassing the bike electrics and spinning the motor by jumping off a running car/truck. Connect your ground, disconnect the starter lead from the solenoid and apply power directly to the lead...
    Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

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    '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
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    '80SG restified, red SOLD
    '79F parts...
    '81H more parts...

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    '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
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    • #17
      In my humble opinion

      A motor with no exhaust or air cleaner(Steve you mentioned you put a set of carbs on and retested) would allow a greater volume of air to pass through it.
      I think this is the cause of the higher compression.
      If it were my project I would take an engine that was within 10% do a clean up of the head lap the valves.

      Rick
      XS1100F TKAT fork brace Stock suspension. Vetter Fairing. Pingel Petcocks. Geezer voltage regulator
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      • #18
        Originally posted by Rickrod3 View Post
        A motor with no exhaust or air cleaner(Steve you mentioned you put a set of carbs on and retested) would allow a greater volume of air to pass through it.
        I think this is the cause of the higher compression.
        If it were my project I would take an engine that was within 10% do a clean up of the head lap the valves.
        If the carbs add no appreciable restriction at cranking speed the exhaust and air cleaner isn't going to add any either unless they are plugged. That's why Steve said I was right, as I contended that at cranking speed it wasn't pulling enough air for the carbs with the throttles all the way open wouldn't serve as any restriction to the amount of air the engine can move at that speed.

        I haven't ever noticed (on pretty much any vehicle) the air cleaner or exhaust to cause much if any restriction at idle either, but once you get up off of there they CAN become a factor.
        Cy

        1980 XS1100G (Brutus) w/81H Engine
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        Vetter Windjammer IV
        Vetter hard bags & Trunk
        OEM Luggage Rack
        Jardine Spaghetti 4-2 exhaust system
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        • #19
          Originally posted by cywelchjr View Post
          If the carbs add no appreciable restriction at cranking speed the exhaust and air cleaner isn't going to add any either unless they are plugged. That's why Steve said I was right, as I contended that at cranking speed it wasn't pulling enough air for the carbs with the throttles all the way open wouldn't serve as any restriction to the amount of air the engine can move at that speed.

          I haven't ever noticed (on pretty much any vehicle) the air cleaner or exhaust to cause much if any restriction at idle either, but once you get up off of there they CAN become a factor.
          I see your point CY.
          The more air you try to get the the greater the resistance.
          Maybe Steve can test the 79 engine with the kicker?
          XS1100F TKAT fork brace Stock suspension. Vetter Fairing. Pingel Petcocks. Geezer voltage regulator
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          http://s910.photobucket.com/albums/a...t=DSCF2647.jpg
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          • #20
            with my engine, when its cold
            i get around 90psi compression,
            with the carbs and exhaust fitted,
            once its warmed up the compression jumps
            up to around 150psi.
            just had a quick look at my old text book
            and it stated that
            the engine should be fully warmed up and all
            plugs removed before the procedure,
            which is the way ive always done the test.
            Last edited by petejw; 01-13-2011, 09:27 PM.
            pete


            new owner of
            08 gen2 hayabusa


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            1981 xs1100 RH (aus) (5N5)
            zrx carbs
            18mm float height
            145 main jets
            38 pilots
            slide needle shimmed .5mm washer
            fitted with v/stax and uni pod filters

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