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    Went to go for a ride on "new to me" '79 xs1100e when I noticed i had little to no front brakes. I checked the fluid level and it all seemed fine. Bled the brakes with no fix. Does anyone have any advice or tips??

  • #2
    Cleaning of the calipers and especially the master cylinder. Any bike that sits for a period will need the brake system cleaned and new fluid installed. For me, the brakes are to important not to know what is in there and what condition they are in. So I tear them open, clean it all up, including spraying brake cleaner through the lines to ensure it all comes out clean, and then reassemble.
    Life is what happens while your planning everything else!

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    81 XS1100 Special - Humpty Dumpty
    80 XS1100 Special - Project Resurrection


    Previously owned
    93 GSX600F
    80 XS1100 Special - Ruby
    81 XS1100 Special
    81 CB750 C
    80 CB750 C
    78 XS750

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    • #3
      These things are under breaked to begin with, clean them!
      Nathan
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      1978 XS1100E
      K&N Filter
      #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
      OEM Exhaust
      ATK Fork Brace
      LED Dash lights
      Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

      Green Monster Coils
      SS Brake Lines
      Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

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      • #4
        Be sure to pull the pistons out of the calipers and remove the rubber seals. Clean the groove UNDER the rubber seals, to get the crud out. Also be sure to clean the spooge hole in the master cylinders. It's a teeny tiny hole that returns fluid to the resevoir when you let off the brakes, and can get plugged easily. One tip - use the master cylinder to pump the piston out of the caliper BEFORE disconnecting the brake lines. It's SOOO much easier that way!
        1980 XS850SG - Sold
        1981 XS1100LH Midnight Special (Sold) - purchased 9/29/08
        Fully Vetterized and Dynojet Kit added, Heated Grips, Truck-Lite LED headlight, Accel Coils, Irridium plugs, TKAT Fork Brace, XS850LH Final Drive & Black SS Brake lines from Chacal.
        Here's my web page devoted to my bike! XS/XJ User's Manuals there, and the XJ1100 Service Manual and both XS1100 Service manuals (free download!).

        Whether you think you can, or you think you cannot - You're right.
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        • #5
          theres also an adjustment at the lever,
          if the adj is out the brake lever will
          want to touch the hand grip.
          pete


          new owner of
          08 gen2 hayabusa


          former owner
          1981 xs1100 RH (aus) (5N5)
          zrx carbs
          18mm float height
          145 main jets
          38 pilots
          slide needle shimmed .5mm washer
          fitted with v/stax and uni pod filters

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          • #6
            Brakes

            The piston was not releasing all the way so I sprayed some brake cleaner inside the body. The piston released and is working fine; however it will not pump fluid out of the master cylinder. I am soaking the entire cylinder as we speak. I am hoping the gunk is freed up tomorrow. Any other tips.

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            • #7
              Brakes

              It sounds like you have some maintenance to do.
              My brakes actually improved after a couple of weeks riding. But these are not powerful brakes if that is what you are used to. However they are acceptable for the job IMO. The mass of 562 pounds does not help.
              The difference when riding my other newer bikes is startling, the weight, the brakes, but a hydraulic clutch is so featherlight in comparison.

              Crusty

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              • #8
                Hello I had a similar problem with mine. I had removed the istons because the were gunked up. When I bled it I sqeezed the lever all the way in. This will make the little boot on the inside flip over and your brakes will be nonexsistant. Bleed them again this time put a 2x4 in between the lever and the bar and squeeze it it that distance. Also I noticed you wrote 79e. The e is a. 78 the f is the 79 however my 2 79's were made in 78. You can tell which you have by the vin.

                Good luck with the brakes
                " She'll make point five past lightspeed. She may not look like much, but she's got it where it counts, kid. I've made a lot of special modifications myself. "

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                • #9
                  Brakes

                  It is a '79f. My bad. How do you remove the piston from the master cylinder? Sorry, im a rookie at all of this.

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                  • #10
                    How do I get the boot flipped over the right way?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Pep42 View Post
                      It is a '79f. My bad. How do you remove the piston from the master cylinder? Sorry, im a rookie at all of this.
                      You'll need a long nose snap ring pliars, the snap ring sits down in a tunnel.

                      Last edited by bikerphil; 11-04-2010, 09:15 AM.
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                      3H3 owned since '06

                      "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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                      • #12
                        How do you remove the plastic tub holding the fluid? Mine is really dirty and you can't even see through the plastic to see the fluid level. Can this be cleaned up?
                        _____________________
                        78 XS1100 - mainly stock

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by tri650 View Post
                          How do you remove the plastic tub holding the fluid? Mine is really dirty and you can't even see through the plastic to see the fluid level. Can this be cleaned up?
                          You can't. It's part of the unit. They never sold just the plastic tubs, or the seals that go between the two pieces either. You can get new master cylinders from MikesXS, and the solid metal ones (like the stock ones used on the LH) would be my preference. The white plastic does get kinda opaque, but a light shining through it should give you an indication of the fluid level.
                          Last edited by CatatonicBug; 11-04-2010, 02:50 PM.
                          1980 XS850SG - Sold
                          1981 XS1100LH Midnight Special (Sold) - purchased 9/29/08
                          Fully Vetterized and Dynojet Kit added, Heated Grips, Truck-Lite LED headlight, Accel Coils, Irridium plugs, TKAT Fork Brace, XS850LH Final Drive & Black SS Brake lines from Chacal.
                          Here's my web page devoted to my bike! XS/XJ User's Manuals there, and the XJ1100 Service Manual and both XS1100 Service manuals (free download!).

                          Whether you think you can, or you think you cannot - You're right.
                          -H. Ford

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                          • #14
                            That reservoir will come off, but be careful if it's in rough shape. Take the screws out of the bottom first. It is held in by a large O-ring, and by rocking and prying it up, it will come off. I've had mine apart many years ago.

                            Bug, what do you mean it won't come apart, everything comes apart.
                            Last edited by bikerphil; 11-04-2010, 03:24 PM.
                            2H7 (79) owned since '89
                            3H3 owned since '06

                            "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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                            • #15
                              You can 'kinda' restore those plastic reserviors, but it's a bit of a PITA. The main thing is getting off the 'dead' plastic; I've seen guys sand them, even sandblast them to get down to good plastic. Then coat/dip them in a clear coating that can take some exposure to brake fluid. A clear resin coat is what I've seen used, and the finished product, while not 'like new', looked a lot better.

                              And like Phil said, they come off, but not easily. The Specials and late Standards are held on by the fill cap screws; the early standards have a metal plate in the bottom. Twisting while pulling up has done the trick for me...
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