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  • #61
    Originally posted by natemoen View Post
    Ok, I know this is an old thread but it was linked in a recent thread and I read back though it and have a though.

    So if a space like yours is necessary (and it doesn't seem like that has really been determined yet) would it be possible to make the space for the emulators also a preload spacer and then include the holes to disable the original damper circuit in the spacer so that one could revert back to stock if ever one so wanted?
    The spacer would just provide a better place for the emulator to sit on the top of the Standard's damper rod. The drilling takes place in the lower part of the damper rod to disable the original compression damping circuit. The only way to reverse it would be to braze/solder the drilled holes or just replace the damper rods. Only reason I could see for reverting back to stock would be to sell the bike but these emulators are only $50, not $250 like the genuine. I'm going to look into making a spacer for the Standard forks.
    2H7 (79) owned since '89
    3H3 owned since '06

    "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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    • #62
      So it wouldn't work to have the holes to disable the old circuit up top by the emulators?
      Nathan
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      #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
      OEM Exhaust
      ATK Fork Brace
      LED Dash lights
      Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

      Green Monster Coils
      SS Brake Lines
      Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

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      • #63
        I just receive the emulators from RACETECH. They look the same as those pictured. For standard XS11 forks, I don't think they're big enough to make a difference. I would follow the instructions as if you were using them on a XS650. Just keep in mind that the XS650 weighs 100 lbs less than the XS11.

        Go to RACETECH and look up the part number for the XS11 emulator and then look it up for the XS650. If they are the same, the story is told. If not, it could just be the spring that is different.
        Last edited by jetmechmarty; 04-02-2011, 10:23 AM. Reason: spelling
        Marty (in Mississippi)
        XS1100SG
        XS650SK
        XS650SH
        XS650G
        XS6502F
        XS650E

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        • #64
          Originally posted by natemoen View Post
          So it wouldn't work to have the holes to disable the old circuit up top by the emulators?
          No, that wouldn't disable the original circuit. Has to be done down in the lower tubes to work.
          Cy

          1980 XS1100G (Brutus) w/81H Engine
          Duplicolor Mirage Paint Job (Purple/Green)
          Vetter Windjammer IV
          Vetter hard bags & Trunk
          OEM Luggage Rack
          Jardine Spaghetti 4-2 exhaust system
          Spade Fuse Box
          Turn Signal Auto Cancel Mod
          750 FD Mod
          TC Spin on Oil Filter Adapter (temp removed)
          XJ1100 Front Footpegs
          XJ1100 Shocks

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          • #65
            Marty, measure the diameter amd length of yours from racetech.
            Nathan
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            1978 XS1100E
            K&N Filter
            #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
            OEM Exhaust
            ATK Fork Brace
            LED Dash lights
            Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

            Green Monster Coils
            SS Brake Lines
            Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

            In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

            Theodore Roosevelt

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            • #66
              Originally posted by natemoen View Post
              So it wouldn't work to have the holes to disable the old circuit up top by the emulators?
              To expand on Cy's answer a bit, the holes have to be below the fork tube. When the forks are assembled, most of the dampers stick out the bottom of the tubes. Under compression, the oil goes into the damper holes and out the top into the tubes. The emulator moves this restriction to the top of the damper.
              Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

              '78E original owner - resto project
              '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
              '82 XJ rebuild project
              '80SG restified, red SOLD
              '79F parts...
              '81H more parts...

              Other current bikes:
              '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
              '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
              '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
              Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
              Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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              • #67
                Ok makes sense.
                Nathan
                KD9ARL

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                1978 XS1100E
                K&N Filter
                #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
                OEM Exhaust
                ATK Fork Brace
                LED Dash lights
                Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

                Green Monster Coils
                SS Brake Lines
                Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

                In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

                Theodore Roosevelt

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                • #68
                  One other thing that should be mentioned (and hasn't been yet), is installing these in standard forks will increase spring preload by the thickness of the emulator unless you use shorter springs. This isn't a problem in Special forks, as they have a spacer that you can trim shorter, but that's not the case in the standard. This may or may not be a problem, but is something to be aware of...
                  Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

                  '78E original owner - resto project
                  '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
                  '82 XJ rebuild project
                  '80SG restified, red SOLD
                  '79F parts...
                  '81H more parts...

                  Other current bikes:
                  '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
                  '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
                  '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
                  Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
                  Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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                  • #69
                    Marty, I'd also be interested in the diameter of those Racetech emulators you have for the XS11. Thx
                    2H7 (79) owned since '89
                    3H3 owned since '06

                    "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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                    • #70
                      The RaceTech emulators for my SG are 27mm in diameter or 1 1/16 in.
                      Marty (in Mississippi)
                      XS1100SG
                      XS650SK
                      XS650SH
                      XS650G
                      XS6502F
                      XS650E

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by jetmechmarty View Post
                        The RaceTech emulators for my SG are 27mm in diameter or 1 1/16 in.
                        so they are quite a bit bigger than mikesxs emulators.
                        Nathan
                        KD9ARL

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                        1978 XS1100E
                        K&N Filter
                        #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
                        OEM Exhaust
                        ATK Fork Brace
                        LED Dash lights
                        Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

                        Green Monster Coils
                        SS Brake Lines
                        Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

                        In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

                        Theodore Roosevelt

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                        • #72
                          What is the diameter of the XS650 emulator?
                          Marty (in Mississippi)
                          XS1100SG
                          XS650SK
                          XS650SH
                          XS650G
                          XS6502F
                          XS650E

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                          • #73
                            Phil, could a combination adapter/sleeve be made to make it fit better? Something that the emulator would fit inside of and would slide into the forks with a better fit? Or would that be too much trouble?
                            1979XS1100SF
                            K&N's and drilled airbox
                            Jardine 4in1
                            Dunlop Elite 3's
                            JBM slide diaphragms
                            142.5 main jets
                            45 pilot jets
                            T.C.'s fusebox & SOFA
                            750/850 FD mod.
                            XV 920 Needle Mod.
                            Mike's XS plastic floats set at 26mm
                            Venture Cam Chain Tensioner

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                            • #74
                              What you need is to sleeve the emulator up to the size of the damper (so the spring has a place to seat), with an 'adaptor' on the bottom to center/seal the emulator to the damper...
                              Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

                              '78E original owner - resto project
                              '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
                              '82 XJ rebuild project
                              '80SG restified, red SOLD
                              '79F parts...
                              '81H more parts...

                              Other current bikes:
                              '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
                              '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
                              '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
                              Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
                              Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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                              • #75
                                I see I should have gone back and read through the whole thread before I asked the last question. Excuse me while I do the walk of shame.....
                                1979XS1100SF
                                K&N's and drilled airbox
                                Jardine 4in1
                                Dunlop Elite 3's
                                JBM slide diaphragms
                                142.5 main jets
                                45 pilot jets
                                T.C.'s fusebox & SOFA
                                750/850 FD mod.
                                XV 920 Needle Mod.
                                Mike's XS plastic floats set at 26mm
                                Venture Cam Chain Tensioner

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