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  • #16
    I did flat with a clear coat over on side covers and case guards and I will do the same to the tank this winter. It comes out as a semi-flat/gloss. Kinda hard to describe.
    Just ME and my 82 XJ 1100. Mac 4>1-2 1/2" open baffle shotgun, no octy, K&N pod filters, LED tail/brake light & directionals, 750 FD mod, Ear Cannon air horn, modified bars and dash. "Motorcyclists are all bound together by a brotherhood tie through their love of the sport, and what difference does it make what machine he rides as long as he belongs to the clan." Walter Davidson, Dec. 1920 edition of Harley-Davidson Enthusiast Magazine http://s851.photobucket.com/albums/ab78/justme1100/

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    • #17
      Originally posted by natemoen View Post
      If you do go with the flat black look. Do not use black primer and leave it like that. Primer can't take the weather or sun. Use a real topcoat paint.
      That's excellent advice and very true. And don't go for a true 'flat' finish, but look for a 'hot rod' black or a semi-flat finish. If you use a real 'flat' paint, it will eventually end up looking semi-flat in every place it gets rubbed/touched. Some guys have used basecoat/clearcoat type paint and skipped the clearcoat, but even that won't hold up over the long haul. Most primers are porous, so you can get rust right through the paint...
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      • #18
        There ate also flattening agents that can be added to paints or even clearcoats to give you the satin look.
        Nathan
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        1978 XS1100E
        K&N Filter
        #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
        OEM Exhaust
        ATK Fork Brace
        LED Dash lights
        Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

        Green Monster Coils
        SS Brake Lines
        Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

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        • #19
          Back when I mixed paint at an auto parts store the DuPont rep told me the flattening agent was basically talcum powder.
          Jim...<><

          '78 XS1100E

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          • #20
            Originally posted by gui_tarzan View Post
            Back when I mixed paint at an auto parts store the DuPont rep told me the flattening agent was basically talcum powder.
            Dont really know anything about it other than it exists! So if thats what you were told I would believe it!
            Nathan
            KD9ARL

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            1978 XS1100E
            K&N Filter
            #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
            OEM Exhaust
            ATK Fork Brace
            LED Dash lights
            Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

            Green Monster Coils
            SS Brake Lines
            Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

            In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

            Theodore Roosevelt

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            • #21
              Thats it, flat black paint (2 or 3 coats) with a semi gloss clear coat (or 5) and it turns into a satin finish. It has held up well.
              Just ME and my 82 XJ 1100. Mac 4>1-2 1/2" open baffle shotgun, no octy, K&N pod filters, LED tail/brake light & directionals, 750 FD mod, Ear Cannon air horn, modified bars and dash. "Motorcyclists are all bound together by a brotherhood tie through their love of the sport, and what difference does it make what machine he rides as long as he belongs to the clan." Walter Davidson, Dec. 1920 edition of Harley-Davidson Enthusiast Magazine http://s851.photobucket.com/albums/ab78/justme1100/

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              • #22
                Originally posted by GARTHXS View Post

                Would you mind posting a rear shot of this bike? Thanks
                1979 XS1100 Standard
                Putting it together........

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                • #23
                  I just posted one on the what did you do to your bike thread
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                  • #24
                    Hey, I'm new here... What did you ever end up using on this project? I've been playing with the idea of using black Plasti Dip on mine... You guys got any views on that?
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by JRealHEMC View Post
                      Hey, I'm new here... What did you ever end up using on this project? I've been playing with the idea of using black Plasti Dip on mine... You guys got any views on that?
                      Lmfaooooo. I think you just revealed your age. Are you serious? Who uses plastidip besides teenagers on their Subaru rims, etc.?

                      My opnion is to do your research on painting, and paint it properly. Plati-dip is the biggest half-ass/lazy showmanship of a bike/car I have ever seen! It's not even permanent. It peels off with a quickness, and looks like crap.
                      1979 XS1100F
                      2H9 Mod, Truck-Lite LED Headlight, TECHNA-FIT S/S Brake Lines, Rear Air Shocks, TKAT Fork Brace, Dyna DC-I Coils, TC Fuse Block, Barnett HD Clutch Springs, Superbike Handlebars, V-Star 650 ACCT, NGK Irridium Plugs, OEM Exhaust. CNC-Cut 2nd Gear Dogs; Ported/Milled Head; Modded Airbox: 8x8 Wix Panel Filter; #137.5 Main Jet, Viper Yellow Paint, Michelin Pilot Activ F/R, Interstate AGM Battery, 14MM MC, Maier Fairing, Cree LED Fog Lights.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by IanDMacDonald View Post
                        Lmfaooooo. I think you just revealed your age. Are you serious? Who uses plastidip besides teenagers on their Subaru rims, etc.?

                        My opnion is to do your research on painting, and paint it properly. Plati-dip is the biggest half-ass/lazy showmanship of a bike/car I have ever seen! It's not even permanent. It peels off with a quickness, and looks like crap.
                        Lol, I don't know, I just found out about it recently... All I know is, like you said, people use it to paint rims & I really like the satin finish it gives (from the ones I've seen done by a shop here) and from what I was TOLD it is pretty durable, that's why I like it, but like I said, that's just what I was TOLD. I wasn't really sure about it, that's why I asked. I know exactly how to paint it the "right" way, just was asking about a possible new way. I mean, I've seen this shop do a whole entire car with it... (FYI, I'm nowhere near a teenager, I just look like it, lol)
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by JRealHEMC View Post
                          Lol, I don't know, I just found out about it recently... All I know is, like you said, people use it to paint rims & I really like the satin finish it gives (from the ones I've seen done by a shop here) and from what I was TOLD it is pretty durable, that's why I like it, but like I said, that's just what I was TOLD. I wasn't really sure about it, that's why I asked. I know exactly how to paint it the "right" way, just was asking about a possible new way. I mean, I've seen this shop do a whole entire car with it... (FYI, I'm nowhere near a teenager, I just look like it, lol)
                          Haha, I know you're not a teen, no disrespect intended. I've seen a few bikes Plati-dipped, and it looked like poop. Even seen them in parking lots with a spot or two missing from them, where someone vandalized it. Sad.

                          No, if you like the flat black look, you should do it the proper way. It only looks good on certain bikes. I do not think it looks good on the Standards. Something about the rectangle tank, etc., where it looks off. Some of the cruisers look awesome with it.
                          1979 XS1100F
                          2H9 Mod, Truck-Lite LED Headlight, TECHNA-FIT S/S Brake Lines, Rear Air Shocks, TKAT Fork Brace, Dyna DC-I Coils, TC Fuse Block, Barnett HD Clutch Springs, Superbike Handlebars, V-Star 650 ACCT, NGK Irridium Plugs, OEM Exhaust. CNC-Cut 2nd Gear Dogs; Ported/Milled Head; Modded Airbox: 8x8 Wix Panel Filter; #137.5 Main Jet, Viper Yellow Paint, Michelin Pilot Activ F/R, Interstate AGM Battery, 14MM MC, Maier Fairing, Cree LED Fog Lights.

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