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    I am replacing my 1979 XS1100SF Special tank. The org. tank had been repaired by PO and has some rust and seeping from seems. I have a nice 79 special tank with "no" rust inside (one dent that I have fixed) The question to all who have been down this road with 30 year old tanks that look great, should I POR the inside just in case, or does no rust mean no leaks. Does the factory seal hold up or leak with age no matter how clean the tank
    1979 XS1100 Special (Mad Max, OEM) Current
    1980 XS1100 Special
    1990 V Max
    1982 KZ750 LTD Twin
    1986 700 FZR Yamaha Fazer (faster then expected)
    1979 XS750 Special (my 1st Special)
    1974 CB750-Four



    Past/pres Car's
    1961 Catalina 389/1970 Torino GT 351/1967GTO 12to1 comp./ Roller cam/ T-10/ 456 gear/Tri-power/1967 GTO 400, 1969 Camaro, 1968 Z28, 2001 BMW M Roadster 0 to 60 in 4.5 sec. Jaguar XK8

  • #2
    You can never go wrong by coating the inside of.the tank.
    Nathan
    KD9ARL

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    1978 XS1100E
    K&N Filter
    #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
    OEM Exhaust
    ATK Fork Brace
    LED Dash lights
    Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

    Green Monster Coils
    SS Brake Lines
    Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

    In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

    Theodore Roosevelt

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    • #3
      Myself, I would never coat the inside of a tank unless absolutely necessary, JMHO. If the coating comes loose, then you've got problems. These tanks seem pretty solid and I've never had any problems with mine (knock). If it was leaking, I would probably try to solder it before coating. Again, JMHO
      2H7 (79) owned since '89
      3H3 owned since '06

      "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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      • #4
        Phil

        Originally posted by bikerphil View Post
        Myself, I would never coat the inside of a tank unless absolutely necessary, JMHO. If the coating comes loose, then you've got problems. These tanks seem pretty solid and I've never had any problems with mine (knock). If it was leaking, I would probably try to solder it before coating. Again, JMHO
        Thanks Phil, that was kinda my thinking, once you kream a tank if it leaks again (the one I am replacing was kreamed by a GI that used US military seal stuff, and now it seeps I think I will clean and install, if it leaks, I can always POR it later
        1979 XS1100 Special (Mad Max, OEM) Current
        1980 XS1100 Special
        1990 V Max
        1982 KZ750 LTD Twin
        1986 700 FZR Yamaha Fazer (faster then expected)
        1979 XS750 Special (my 1st Special)
        1974 CB750-Four



        Past/pres Car's
        1961 Catalina 389/1970 Torino GT 351/1967GTO 12to1 comp./ Roller cam/ T-10/ 456 gear/Tri-power/1967 GTO 400, 1969 Camaro, 1968 Z28, 2001 BMW M Roadster 0 to 60 in 4.5 sec. Jaguar XK8

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        • #5
          I have coated plenty of tanks in my time and I have never had one come off.
          Nathan
          KD9ARL

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          1978 XS1100E
          K&N Filter
          #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
          OEM Exhaust
          ATK Fork Brace
          LED Dash lights
          Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

          Green Monster Coils
          SS Brake Lines
          Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

          In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

          Theodore Roosevelt

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          • #6
            Nate

            Originally posted by natemoen View Post
            I have coated plenty of tanks in my time and I have never had one come off.
            What kind do you use, I have POR US seal, I have heard it is the best but I haven't used it yet ($100.00), just got it thinking i might on this tank
            1979 XS1100 Special (Mad Max, OEM) Current
            1980 XS1100 Special
            1990 V Max
            1982 KZ750 LTD Twin
            1986 700 FZR Yamaha Fazer (faster then expected)
            1979 XS750 Special (my 1st Special)
            1974 CB750-Four



            Past/pres Car's
            1961 Catalina 389/1970 Torino GT 351/1967GTO 12to1 comp./ Roller cam/ T-10/ 456 gear/Tri-power/1967 GTO 400, 1969 Camaro, 1968 Z28, 2001 BMW M Roadster 0 to 60 in 4.5 sec. Jaguar XK8

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            • #7
              I agree with Phil. When I see a bike advertised with a coated tank it's a minus in my eyes. Not a deal killer per-sea , just not a plus. If it is fairly rust free leave it alone.Just remember not to let them sit not full too long.

              In the fall and a cold front comes sweeping in I make a point off topping off my tanks even if I am only a little low. Rapid temp drops will make any air inside condense and cause moisture.
              79SF
              XJ11
              78E

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              • #8
                I used Red-Kote on my last tank job. I can honestly say that with it, make sure you don't get it anywhere you don't want sealed. I had to sand some of it off the outside of the tank. Once it set, nothing else was moving it.
                http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1278/...01bfdb21_b.jpg
                1978 XS11 Standard -- For Sale or Trade
                4 into 1 (brand?)
                Special Tank (really sucks for size)
                Special Side covers
                Winjammer 5 fairing with Vetter Hard cases


                1979 XS11 Special (has a new home elsewhere)

                1982 Yamaha XV920J Virago - My new daily rider.
                National Cycle Plexi-3
                Saddleman double bucket seat
                custom paint

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                • #9
                  i take mine to the radiator shop and let the coat it
                  careful what you wish for.........you might get it

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                  • #10
                    Did some research on Red-Kote. Found only good things about it. If I EVER had to do it looks pretty good. Sticking with my original opinion But if I HAD to.............and only if.
                    79SF
                    XJ11
                    78E

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                    • #11
                      Phil

                      Originally posted by bikerphil View Post
                      Myself, I would never coat the inside of a tank unless absolutely necessary, JMHO. If the coating comes loose, then you've got problems. These tanks seem pretty solid and I've never had any problems with mine (knock). If it was leaking, I would probably try to solder it before coating. Again, JMHO
                      I thought these tanks were sealed from the factory with a crimp filled with sealer You are saying "solder" I would think that would cause the OEM sealer to leak from heat
                      1979 XS1100 Special (Mad Max, OEM) Current
                      1980 XS1100 Special
                      1990 V Max
                      1982 KZ750 LTD Twin
                      1986 700 FZR Yamaha Fazer (faster then expected)
                      1979 XS750 Special (my 1st Special)
                      1974 CB750-Four



                      Past/pres Car's
                      1961 Catalina 389/1970 Torino GT 351/1967GTO 12to1 comp./ Roller cam/ T-10/ 456 gear/Tri-power/1967 GTO 400, 1969 Camaro, 1968 Z28, 2001 BMW M Roadster 0 to 60 in 4.5 sec. Jaguar XK8

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                      • #12
                        I have used several brands redcoat and lot are my favs. It's just all in the prep work. I always do it before I paint a tank. I clean it out a little then I bring the tank to a machine shop and have them hot tank the tank to get out all the rust and anything that might be on the metal. Then I coat the tank right after I get it back so the metal doesn't have time to develop surface rust.
                        Nathan
                        KD9ARL

                        μολὼν λαβέ

                        1978 XS1100E
                        K&N Filter
                        #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
                        OEM Exhaust
                        ATK Fork Brace
                        LED Dash lights
                        Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

                        Green Monster Coils
                        SS Brake Lines
                        Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

                        In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

                        Theodore Roosevelt

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by XS1100_OEM4ME View Post
                          I thought these tanks were sealed from the factory with a crimp filled with sealer You are saying "solder" I would think that would cause the OEM sealer to leak from heat
                          I've helped a buddy solder his XS tank about a year ago, it had several pin holes behind the petcock, not directly on the seam. We used a solder iron with the gas still in the tank, just tilted it. . It didn't really get super hot, so I'd say the sealer survived.
                          Last edited by bikerphil; 09-01-2010, 07:45 AM.
                          2H7 (79) owned since '89
                          3H3 owned since '06

                          "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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                          • #14
                            Thanks

                            Originally posted by bikerphil View Post
                            I've helped a buddy solder his XS tank about a year ago, it had several pin holes behind the petcock, not directly on the seam. We used a solder iron with the gas still in the tank, just tilted it. . It didn't really get super hot, so I'd say the sealer survived.
                            Thanks Phil for clearing that up, I am going to try the tank as is, 30 year old sealer and all, if it leaks, ill fix, if not I RIDE
                            1979 XS1100 Special (Mad Max, OEM) Current
                            1980 XS1100 Special
                            1990 V Max
                            1982 KZ750 LTD Twin
                            1986 700 FZR Yamaha Fazer (faster then expected)
                            1979 XS750 Special (my 1st Special)
                            1974 CB750-Four



                            Past/pres Car's
                            1961 Catalina 389/1970 Torino GT 351/1967GTO 12to1 comp./ Roller cam/ T-10/ 456 gear/Tri-power/1967 GTO 400, 1969 Camaro, 1968 Z28, 2001 BMW M Roadster 0 to 60 in 4.5 sec. Jaguar XK8

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                            • #15
                              Lon, I think you'll be fine if the tank looked pretty good inside. When I bought my Standard back in '89, the tank was pretty rusty inside. I cleaned it out half assed and just rode it, cleaning the carbs out several times until the rust went away. There is no rust in it now and it's still holding strong, knock again. Good idea, ride now, fix later if needed.
                              2H7 (79) owned since '89
                              3H3 owned since '06

                              "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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