Can't figure this out

[TopCatGr58]

Hey there 81xs1100,

The signals ground with large washers on the stalks on the rears, and they can develop corrosion/rust and prevent a proper ground affect, so taking them off and cleaning there as well will help to further ensure your ground.

Also, inspect the bulb sockets themselves, can develope that silvery corrosion on the ground straps and screws there also!
T.C.

[81sx1100]

Thanks for all the information i did clean all the plugs (every one of them) and still not blinking cleaned the ground's all the conecctions for the leads went through wireing harness didn't find any wirers grownding out or bad all the bulbs are 27watts i am about to give up and just junk the darn thing

[cywelchjr]

Thanks for all the information i did clean all the plugs (every one of them) and still not blinking cleaned the ground's all the conecctions for the leads went through wireing harness didn't find any wirers grownding out or bad all the bulbs are 27watts i am about to give up and just junk the darn thing

Ok, did you replace the flasher under the side cover with a 2 prong automotive type? (preferably an electronic one)? And did you check the wires in the left control pod that hook to the 4 way flasher switch? Those can come loose from the switch and make them not flash as well. If this is the case, you need to get some solder and and iron and solder them all back on carefully. Sometimes if there is a problem with those wires you can get the turn signals to work by wiggling the wires where they come out of the left side control pod.

[81sx1100]

Yes the flasher on the side cover was replaced but with an OEM flasher new (cost enought ) i checked everything that everyone said to check and clean am i missing anything?

[fredintoon]

Yes the flasher on the side cover was replaced but with an OEM flasher new (cost enought ) i checked everything that everyone said to check and clean am i missing anything?

Hi '81,
your posts don't say, did the flashers work during your ownership and then quit, or did they never work?
You also didn't say if the 4-ways still work, or they never worked or if they quit the same time as the indicators did.
Knowing these factors can help in a long range diagnosis.

[81sx1100]

They both worked when it was stored and sat for 5 years could it be that i took off the fairing?

[CaptonZap]

Thanks for all the help so far everyone now my question is how do you tell if the bulb is a 22W or a 27w? i can pull the bulbs out and check the fron turn and head light came off a xs650 i beleave the guy said because i took off the fairing (anyone want to buy and fairing?) so maybe the bulbs are differant thanks again i will check the bulbs but how do you tell the watages?

http://www.run-n-lites.com/bulbspec.asp

[CatatonicBug]

Did you take the switch apart on the left handlebar? There are a lot of spring-loaded connections and soldered wires in there that get corroded over time (especially when sitting), causing things not to function properly. Be sure to take ALL the guts out of that switch housing and clean everything and lube it with dielectric grease. The soldered connections tend to break off in there too, so be sure to check those as well.

[fredintoon]

They both worked when it was stored and sat for 5 years could it be that i took off the fairing?

Hi '81,
Gawd! Sometimes it's like pulling teeth to get the full story.
From your posts to date:-
The flashers and the 4-ways worked when the bike was stored 5 years ago.
Now that you have removed the fairing and substituted a headlight and front flashers from an XS650 both signals on either side will come on steady when the switch is operated but they will not flash.
You have replaced the old Yamaflasher with a new Yamaflasher and checked that all 4 bulbs are 27Watts but nothing has changed. The signals still only come on steady but will not flash.
But what about the 4-ways? Do all 4 signals flash when the 4-way is activated?
The most likely suspects are in-storage corrosion of electrical components & wiring, something that didn't get rewired properly when you removed the fairing or a combination of the two.
Time to start bypassing stuff.

[81sx1100]

Sorry for getting you flustered don't mean to but everything you said is correct but the 4-ways don't come on at all and i haven't looked in the switch on the handlebars yet will do that today and hope i find something as for the wireing from removeal of the fairing i went by the wire scamatic from the book and checked them over 4 to 5 times i thought the same thing but i will update after i check the switch in the handle bars thanks

[81sx1100]

ok i pulled the switch off the handle bars and wow what a mess there are 3 wires off Tan/White and 2 browns now all i need is to find out where they go so i can put them back on does anyone know where they go?

[DGXSER]

Ouch, that can REALLY suck. I'll open up a spare switch I have later tonight and give you a pic of where they go on my 81s anyway.

[81sx1100]

DGXSER Thanks that will help big time then i can get them back on and hope that everything works and the switch has the turn, hi/low beam, 4 ways, and horn on it just wanted to make sure you have the same one before you took it apart thanks again

[DGXSER]

Yep, same switch. Here are some pics.

Turn signal and hazard wires, along with the upper turn signal slide and wire, and horn wire in pink.



Here is the headlight high and low wiring



I'd go to paint and label them, but I have never figured out how to post the paint file here afterward.

Camera is not so perfect at close ups, sorry. It can really help to make it clear if you pull the switch open for the hazards and turns and look at the connectors, how they hit where and what gets connected when the switch is in each position. But putting that assembly back together can be a bit of a pain.

[planedick]

Bulbs

The bulbs for the front signals are the 1157 auto bulbs and the bulbs for the rear are 1156 auto bulbs. It's important to have the right bulbs or they won't flash.