New Member - Need Manual!

[Smash]

Hey everybody, just picked up an '82 XJ1100 from a friend for my girlfriend's first street bike (she's a proficient dirt rider). The bike needs some work, most of which I'm completely comfortable with. However, I'm not familiar with the air pressure systems on the suspension.... Going to be throwing on new fork seals and bearings as well as new fluid and inspecting everything else. Not sure if/how this process will be different than on the previous bikes I've worked on.

So, need a manual! I've read around the forum quite a bit. Thought I'd located a repair manual in PDF form. Downloaded.... NOPE! It's for a chain driven bike, the XJ1100 I have is a shafty.

Any assistance?

Thanks folks! I'll keep browsing and reading, hopefully I won't ask too many stupid questions. Looking forward to getting this bike on the road, she'll have a great time riding it!

[Smash]

Here she is!




Current items on the list to do:

1. Carb rebuild (diaphrams look good!)
2. front fork seals
3. front and rear wheel bearings
4. full fluid flush
5. new rubber front and rear

If folks are interested, I ride a Honda ST1100. Alot. (26,000 miles last year, no commuting)

[cywelchjr]

Well, nice bike (the girlfriends not bad either). If you goto the link on any of catatonicbugs posts, he has the manuals available for download on his website. That will get you going on things.

On the bearings, that's one thing that might be an issue, since the left side bearing is NLA from Yamaha, and it's really hard to find any. Some members of the forum have in the past been able to find batches of them and generally pass them on for cost, but I'm not aware of any available right now.

The good news is that the left side bearing if properly maintained can last a LONG time and a LOT of miles. Don't be shocked at the center race on that bearing being able to slide out, it's supposed to do that. Had a bike shop mechanic tell me it needed replaced because of that, and boy was I shocked when I got a new one that was exactly the same. Turns out that's how their supposed to be, so as long as it's turning smoothly and such, it's fine.

[Smash]

Thanks for the info CY.

Bike has 45,000 miles on it... Don't believe the bearings have ever been changed. That being said, my ST1100 went an easy 80,000 on her bearings and they were still pretty darn good!

I've got a call into CBR Bearings (where I have always bought my bearings) and they're seeing what they can do. Sounds like I might just be out of luck on that one! I'll check them when I've got the tires off for rubber.

What's the maintenance on the OEM bearings? All my previous bikes have had sealed units.

[CatatonicBug]

Welcome aboard! As mentioned, the link in my signature will direct you to my site, where you can get the XJ manual.

Your SWMBO's new ride looks like it's in really good shape! Make sure she gets some professional street training, as learning from a relative is not usually very productive. The XS/XJ is a heavy, and VERY powerful machine, and we see way too many folks on here get hurt already.

Good luck with the new bike, and feel free to ask any questions you may come up with. If you need parts, ask here first too, as someone might be able to help you out.

[Smash]

Got it, thanks!! Very handy, much appreciated.

Yeah, it's been pretty well kept up given the 45,000 miles she's got on her. My ST1100 has 86,000 so we aren't afraid of mileage. Not bad for $500 with a clean title (and it even sort of runs....).

So far parts should be ok as we're just dealing with standard maintenance. Will be calling the Yami dealership down the street for the fork seals. Seems folks like sticking with 10w oil, as we don't have a Vetter, so we'll give that a try.

She will absolutely be taking the MSF basic course before she even turns the bike on. She and I are on the same page about safety - high viz, ATGATT and we take safety courses whenever we can.

Thanks again for the manual and the welcome!

[cywelchjr]

Thanks for the info CY.

Bike has 45,000 miles on it... Don't believe the bearings have ever been changed. That being said, my ST1100 went an easy 80,000 on her bearings and they were still pretty darn good!

I've got a call into CBR Bearings (where I have always bought my bearings) and they're seeing what they can do. Sounds like I might just be out of luck on that one! I'll check them when I've got the tires off for rubber.

What's the maintenance on the OEM bearings? All my previous bikes have had sealed units.

IIRC the fronts are sealed, the right rear might be, but the left rear is NOT, and should be lubed any time you need to pull the rear wheel. Since the center race slides out it's not hard to slap some grease in there while you have it off. Also you should pull the final drive off the swing arm when you have the tired off and put some molly grease on the splines of the shaft, that grease fitting on there doesn't get it where it's needed, but you only need to do then when changing the tire.

I've got almost 90,000 on mine with the originals, and their still nice and smooth, so while I'm keeping an eye on them, and have a left rear sitting in my parts box just in case, it's still going well.

[Smash]

Excellent information thank you. Have some moly grease here for my ST, was planning on using that on the splines on the XJ as well. I'll be sure to re-grease that left rear bearing too.

No word back from CBR, so my assumption is they don't have any replacements. Will just stick with the originals unless they're terribly worn once I get to check them.

[mxmikie]

Thanks for the info CY.

Bike has 45,000 miles on it... Don't believe the bearings have ever been changed. That being said, my ST1100 went an easy 80,000 on her bearings and they were still pretty darn good!

I've got a call into CBR Bearings (where I have always bought my bearings) and they're seeing what they can do. Sounds like I might just be out of luck on that one! I'll check them when I've got the tires off for rubber.

What's the maintenance on the OEM bearings? All my previous bikes have had sealed units.

i have a set of bearings for the rear wheel for sale in the parts for sale section under xs stuff for sale

[Smash]

Thanks! Decided I'm gonna hold off on buying til we pull tires and check them.

Figuring out what tires to order now. Plenty of threads on that! I think the 404s will win. OEM tires on a Honda Sabre I had years ago, not bad rubber and easy on the wallet. Just can't bring myself to put Shinkos or Kendas on my girlfriend's first bike.....

[bikerphil]

Will be calling the Yami dealership down the street for the fork seals.

Pretty sure the OEM seals (P/N 10M-23145-00-00) are obsolete. Here's one alternative...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...d=320520744730

IIRC, I think there are a few Honda dirt bikes that use the same size seal.

[XS1100_OEM4ME]

Welcome

Welcome Smash! Nice bike I see you say your lady is a experanced rider, that is good, these bikes might be old, but running right, well you can catch up to her at the gas station. Good luck with your bikes, have some fun while their is still some sun

[Kronk]

Good to see more XJ's in the club!

[Smash]

Welcome Smash! Nice bike I see you say your lady is a experanced rider, that is good, these bikes might be old, but running right, well you can catch up to her at the gas station. Good luck with your bikes, have some fun while their is still some sun

She's pretty good in the dirt, will take her a bit to get a hang of pavement. I have no doubt she'll be leaving me in her dust by next summer....

What, 125 miles before reserve? ha. Yeah. She'll have to stop for gas almost three times before I do. Gotta take what you can get right?

[Smash]

Another quick question... Oddly enough a search didn't find me the answer on this one... What's the best place for a reliable fische and best prices on OEM parts? I'm used to Honda.... Thanks!