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  • #1

    Rings

    Who makes rings for the XS's. I am going to need some rings most likely. probably ones that are larger sized. Also do I need a gasket on the bottom of the jugs or can I use RTV? I ask because it would be cheaper for me to buy the head gasket and the valve seals separately than it would to get the whole gasket set, unless there is some reason for me to get the whole gasket set?

    TIA

    Preferably something cheaper than the $72 Bike Bandit set!
    Last edited by natemoen; 08-02-2010, 09:18 PM.
    Nathan
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  • #2
    Get the gasket set! It's about $87 on ebay if you look. Rings will COST! I think they are about $50 PER SET from Yamaha! You may be better off looking for a set of used pistons/rings/barrels to put in. Or, just get it running for now and put a big bore kit in this winter!
    Ray Matteis
    KE6NHG
    XS1100 E '78 (winter project)
    XS1100 SF Bob Jones worked on it!

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    • #3
      Here is a set of all the rings for all four cylinders .25 over on Ebay, 40.00.

      There were two sets, I bought the other one.

      http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/FOUR-...item255b97558d

      Hey guys, I wasn't thinking..please give Nate first shot at this..I should have PM'ed him.
      Last edited by Guy_b_g; 08-02-2010, 11:10 PM.
      Guy

      '78E

      Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur

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      • #4
        Rings?

        1st, why do you think you need new rings? Next, why do you think you need oversized rings with stocks pistons? If your cyl's and pistons are within spec. and your rings are not broken, a ball hone and good cleaning of all piston groves and carbon remove should be enough.
        1979 XS1100 Special (Mad Max, OEM) Current
        1980 XS1100 Special
        1990 V Max
        1982 KZ750 LTD Twin
        1986 700 FZR Yamaha Fazer (faster then expected)
        1979 XS750 Special (my 1st Special)
        1974 CB750-Four



        Past/pres Car's
        1961 Catalina 389/1970 Torino GT 351/1967GTO 12to1 comp./ Roller cam/ T-10/ 456 gear/Tri-power/1967 GTO 400, 1969 Camaro, 1968 Z28, 2001 BMW M Roadster 0 to 60 in 4.5 sec. Jaguar XK8

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        • #5
          If your asking Nate, he'll have to answer.

          As for me, the set I bought is going on the shelf along with a set of .25mm oversize pistons for a rebuild in the future should I need it done.
          Guy

          '78E

          Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur

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          • #6
            Hi Nate, check this link out http://www.xs11.com/forum/showpost.p...2&postcount=46 some of us done some donkey work a while back looking for alternatives and this is what was found. Read the whole thread for the background info.
            1980 SG. (Sold - waiting on replacement)
            2000 XJR1300. The Real modern XS11. Others are just pretenders.

            Woman (well, my wife anyway) are always on Transmit and never Receive.

            "A man should look for what is, and not for what he thinks should be" Albert Einstien.

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            • #7
              The 'whole thread' is here
              Brian
              XS1100 LG "Mr T", SG "ICBM" & FJ1200
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              Be not stingy in what costs nothing as courtesy, counsel and countenance.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by XS1100_OEM4ME View Post
                1st, why do you think you need new rings? Next, why do you think you need oversized rings with stocks pistons? If your cyl's and pistons are within spec. and your rings are not broken, a ball hone and good cleaning of all piston groves and carbon remove should be enough.
                The reason I am getting 1st over is because I am having problems with my rings so I do not know what I am going to find when I get inside. She runs ok and had good compression but dont know till I get in there. If I dont need them I can still file the ends and use them as standard rings not a problem.

                Thanks for the link I ordered those rings. Much better price!
                Nathan
                KD9ARL

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                1978 XS1100E
                K&N Filter
                #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
                OEM Exhaust
                ATK Fork Brace
                LED Dash lights
                Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters
                Green Monster Coils
                SS Brake Lines
                Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

                In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

                Theodore Roosevelt

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                • #9
                  Do I need a ball hone or can I get by with a straight stone hone?
                  Nathan
                  KD9ARL

                  μολὼν λαβέ

                  1978 XS1100E
                  K&N Filter
                  #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
                  OEM Exhaust
                  ATK Fork Brace
                  LED Dash lights
                  Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters
                  Green Monster Coils
                  SS Brake Lines
                  Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

                  In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

                  Theodore Roosevelt

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                  • #10
                    I'm confused, Nate (not really an unusual situation, granted). If you have good compression and your bike runs good, what problem are you having with your rings?

                    Patrick
                    The glorious rays of the rising sun exist only to create shadows in which doom may hide.

                    XS11F (Incubus, daily rider)
                    1969 Yamaha DT1B
                    Five other bikes whose names do not begin with "Y"

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                    • #11
                      I am burning oil like a SOB. I go through about 1.5 quart in 100 miles. So something is wrong. I would much rather have the parts I need in case and then If I dont use them I am sure someone else could use them. I just dont want to pull the head and then have to wait a week to get parts.
                      Nathan
                      KD9ARL

                      μολὼν λαβέ

                      1978 XS1100E
                      K&N Filter
                      #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
                      OEM Exhaust
                      ATK Fork Brace
                      LED Dash lights
                      Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters
                      Green Monster Coils
                      SS Brake Lines
                      Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

                      In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

                      Theodore Roosevelt

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                      • #12
                        Do a leak down test before you tear anything apart that will give you a better idea where your problem might be. If your leaking through your rings you will hear air coming out your crank vent.
                        BDF Special
                        80SG Vetter bagger 1196 Wiseco big bore kit, Mega Cycle Cams, slotted cam gears, ported and flowed head, bronze intake seats, Dyno Jet kit, Dyno coils and Mikes XS air pods, Venture cam chain adjuster,Geezer's regulator, Clutch mod, Mac 4 into 1 with custom built and tuned baffle, Oil cooler,MikesXS emulators mod.
                        Dyno tuned to 98 hp at the rear wheel.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by natemoen View Post
                          I am burning oil like a SOB. I go through about 1.5 quart in 100 miles. So something is wrong.


                          If these bikes have them, possibly valve stem seals? Or maybe worn guides? I would think broken and/or worn rings would show weak compression, probably around 90 psi or less.
                          Richard
                          '79 XS1100SF "Phantom Stranger" full fairing w/radio and cd player, H-D Roadking trunk, everything else stock
                          '02 Honda VTX1800C

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                          • #14
                            I have valve stem seal ordered as well. can I buy a bushing to thread into the spark plug hole so that I can hook it up to an air compressor?
                            Nathan
                            KD9ARL

                            μολὼν λαβέ

                            1978 XS1100E
                            K&N Filter
                            #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
                            OEM Exhaust
                            ATK Fork Brace
                            LED Dash lights
                            Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters
                            Green Monster Coils
                            SS Brake Lines
                            Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

                            In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

                            Theodore Roosevelt

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                            • #15
                              Do you mean to pump the cylinder up in order to hold the valve in it's seat (for spring removal and such), or to check compression?
                              Richard
                              '79 XS1100SF "Phantom Stranger" full fairing w/radio and cd player, H-D Roadking trunk, everything else stock
                              '02 Honda VTX1800C

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