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    Went to put these spageaty headers on (ok not spelled right) but you get the idea
    Any way the stock studs are to short, my question is how hard are these studs to get out to replace them with longer one's
    1979 xs1100 f
    142 main, 45 pilot, Jardeen crosover 4/2, no air box
    floats @ 25.7

    1979 xs1100 F
    1978 gl 1000 goldwing
    1981 gl 1100 goldwing
    !986 venture royale 1300

    Just an ol long haired country boy, come to town to spend some egg money
    when ya get bucked off, get back on

  • #2
    Sometimes they come out fairly easily, sometimes they can be a bear. Soak 'em all first with penetrating oil (not WD40) and give 'em a go. Heat may be used if necessary, have a fire extinguisher handy tho. I'd try removing them first with the double nut method, if no luck, vise grips, a small pipe wrench, or an actual stud removal tool should get the job done. I've bought replacement metric studs before at Ace Hardware, they have a bunch of different lengths. Good luck!
    2H7 (79) owned since '89
    3H3 owned since '06

    "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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    • #3
      I believe its either Lisle or OTC that makes a stud remover/installer that looks like a 3/8 drive socket with a plate over the end held in by a snapring. This design is by far the best for removing studs. Inside, it has rollers that fit in wedge shaped recesses and as they roll, they tighten on the stud. Its almost exactly like our starter clutches work. You'll need the 5/16 size for the 8mm exhaust studs. It will be pricey, but its a great thing to have around, especially if you do a lot of older Chevy water pumps. It'll pay for its self the first time you use it, because you'll think "That was easy".

      If you can't find one, I can try to look around for one and ship it to you, but mine is NOT for sale.
      Ich habe dich nicht gefragt.

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      • #4
        Stud remover

        You can rent the stud remover set in sae or metric at Auto Zone. Comes with 4 different sizes. Do not remember price. I went to Fasten All and they did not carry metric studs and could not order them! Got a short one from Auto Zone.
        Thanks Tom
        82 XJ DAILY RIDE
        78 XS1100E FIXING UP
        79 XS1100F PARTS BIKE
        79 XS1100SF NAKED BIKE
        80 XS1100SG FULL DRESS BIKE
        82 XJ IN THE ROUGH

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        • #5
          rented one

          Originally posted by Ivan View Post
          I believe its either Lisle or OTC that makes a stud remover/installer that looks like a 3/8 drive socket with a plate over the end held in by a snapring. This design is by far the best for removing studs. Inside, it has rollers that fit in wedge shaped recesses and as they roll, they tighten on the stud. Its almost exactly like our starter clutches work. You'll need the 5/16 size for the 8mm exhaust studs. It will be pricey, but its a great thing to have around, especially if you do a lot of older Chevy water pumps. It'll pay for its self the first time you use it, because you'll think "That was easy".

          If you can't find one, I can try to look around for one and ship it to you, but mine is NOT for sale.
          Went to auto zone and rented one, now see if I can get it to work while its in the bike
          1979 xs1100 f
          142 main, 45 pilot, Jardeen crosover 4/2, no air box
          floats @ 25.7

          1979 xs1100 F
          1978 gl 1000 goldwing
          1981 gl 1100 goldwing
          !986 venture royale 1300

          Just an ol long haired country boy, come to town to spend some egg money
          when ya get bucked off, get back on

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          • #6
            One other thing, the stock studs have a short end and a long end. I think the proper orientation is for the short one to go in the head, so that may help with not buying new studs.
            Ich habe dich nicht gefragt.

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            • #7
              Only studs will work?

              I installed my Super Trapp with s/s bolts and lock washers.
              Any advantage of bolts vs studs?
              79 XS1100F.
              SuperTrapp 4-1 w/center stand.
              TC's fuse box.
              SOFA filter.
              Venture cam chain adjuster.
              Tkat fork brace.
              Progressive fork springs.

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              • #8
                I ran my Guzzi with stainless allen head bolts for years instead of the stock studs, no problem...but if you go that route be sure to use a good anti-sleaze, so you don't end up stripping out the soft aluminum threads next time you remove the headers.
                Guy

                '78E

                Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur

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                • #9
                  Or.....just buy a 3' length of 8mmx.125 SS allthread and make your own the length you want.

                  That'll run you about $15-$20 and a little elbow grease.

                  Find a stud remover like Ivan is talking about. That's the shzit!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Guy_b_g View Post
                    but if you go that route be sure to use a good anti-sleaze
                    Anti-sleaze also keeps the XSOkieSpecials from fouling up the paint.
                    Ich habe dich nicht gefragt.

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                    • #11
                      Got em out

                      Goty em out and the headers on, still had to use the vice grips on a couple of them, the frame was in the way for the tool.
                      Dont know why I am going to all this trouble just to hear the headers, gona take this motor out and put in another bike, had to hear those headers I got from Karla I gess, lol ( thanks karla )
                      Wateing for bruce to bring me those two bikes I bought at karla's, said he would bring them friday, gona pay him to deliver them, buy the time I rent a trailer and pay for gas just as cheep to pay some one elece to haul them, 42 miles one way from my house.
                      Any way
                      Got er done
                      1979 xs1100 f
                      142 main, 45 pilot, Jardeen crosover 4/2, no air box
                      floats @ 25.7

                      1979 xs1100 F
                      1978 gl 1000 goldwing
                      1981 gl 1100 goldwing
                      !986 venture royale 1300

                      Just an ol long haired country boy, come to town to spend some egg money
                      when ya get bucked off, get back on

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                      • #12
                        I figger that in a thread titled "jardean headers" with a mention of "spageaty" pipes...that anti-sleaze is the appropriate compound to use...I keep a supply stored next to my spare rectumfryer for just such occasions..

                        (just kiddin' cowboy.. don't draw down on me..I'm unarmed..or so SWMBO says every time I try to argue with her..)
                        Guy

                        '78E

                        Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Guy_b_g View Post
                          I figger that in a thread titled "jardean headers" with a mention of "spageaty" pipes...that anti-sleaze is the appropriate compound to use...I keep a supply stored next to my spare rectumfryer for just such occasions.. - - -
                          Hi Guy,
                          you store spare Tex-Mex food?
                          Another entry for your list of daffynitions:-
                          That tree-hugger thing mandated into your car exhaust system?
                          A catastrophic perverter.
                          Fred Hill, S'toon
                          XS11SG with Spirit of America sidecar
                          "The Flying Pumpkin"

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Guy_b_g View Post
                            I figger that in a thread titled "jardean headers" with a mention of "spageaty" pipes...that anti-sleaze is the appropriate compound to use...I keep a supply stored next to my spare rectumfryer for just such occasions..

                            (just kiddin' cowboy.. don't draw down on me..I'm unarmed..or so SWMBO says every time I try to argue with her..)
                            Well now pillgram ! i live in the country so if I want to shoot the guy down the road, by the time I walk down there i will change my mind and unload my gun, and florida is a long ways from here, lol
                            And as far as the SWMBO go's, somrtimes my liveing room is the man cave, she left along time ago, lol
                            Last edited by cowboybob998; 06-11-2010, 11:07 AM.
                            1979 xs1100 f
                            142 main, 45 pilot, Jardeen crosover 4/2, no air box
                            floats @ 25.7

                            1979 xs1100 F
                            1978 gl 1000 goldwing
                            1981 gl 1100 goldwing
                            !986 venture royale 1300

                            Just an ol long haired country boy, come to town to spend some egg money
                            when ya get bucked off, get back on

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