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  • cowboybob998
    XStremely XSive
    • Mar 2009
    • 371
    • KC MO

    #1

    79 xs fork tubes

    Will 79 xs standard fork tubes work in 1980 special fork sliders ?
    Any one ever done this ?
    1979 xs1100 f
    142 main, 45 pilot, Jardeen crosover 4/2, no air box
    floats @ 25.7

    1979 xs1100 F
    1978 gl 1000 goldwing
    1981 gl 1100 goldwing
    !986 venture royale 1300

    Just an ol long haired country boy, come to town to spend some egg money
    when ya get bucked off, get back on
  • Geezer
    XS-XJ Guru
    • May 2003
    • 2985
    • Willamina, Oregon 97229

    #2
    You could make them work but the bike wouldn't be safe to ride.

    Geezer
    Hi my name is Tony and I'm a bikeoholic.

    The old gray biker ain't what he used to be.

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    • cowboybob998
      XStremely XSive
      • Mar 2009
      • 371
      • KC MO

      #3
      Originally posted by Geezer
      You could make them work but the bike wouldn't be safe to ride.

      Geezer
      Why would it not be safe to ride, it would change the rake and trail of the bike and that is what i want to do but I think it will still be in the limets of control, what i need to know if the forks will work in the fork sliders
      Thanks
      bob

      I will be puting the fork sliders on the 79 and useing the 79 frame and trees, I am trying to rake the front and lower it at the same time.
      Last edited by cowboybob998; 05-28-2010, 11:14 AM. Reason: adding coment
      1979 xs1100 f
      142 main, 45 pilot, Jardeen crosover 4/2, no air box
      floats @ 25.7

      1979 xs1100 F
      1978 gl 1000 goldwing
      1981 gl 1100 goldwing
      !986 venture royale 1300

      Just an ol long haired country boy, come to town to spend some egg money
      when ya get bucked off, get back on

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      • Geezer
        XS-XJ Guru
        • May 2003
        • 2985
        • Willamina, Oregon 97229

        #4
        They're about 4" shorter and you would have to use the standard springs too. The bike would be in a permanent state of nose dive...

        Geezer
        Hi my name is Tony and I'm a bikeoholic.

        The old gray biker ain't what he used to be.

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        • Crazcnuk
          XS-XJ Guru
          • Aug 2006
          • 2980
          • Hinton, AB, Canada

          #5
          Actually the std tubes are about 4" longer, and will make the front sit higher than stock. (they aren't actually longer, I don't think, but the axle goes under the std forks and part way up the back of the special forks.)

          You will have to lengthen the side stand too. I have a 79SF in my yard with std forks on it.
          Nice day, if it doesn't rain...

          '05 ST1300
          '83 502/502 Monte Carlo for sale/trade

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          • bikerphil
            Master of XSology
            • Jan 2008
            • 8628
            • South Flori-DUH

            #6
            The Standard and Special tubes use a different bushing setup, it's not gonna work, BTDT.
            2H7 (79) owned since '89
            3H3 owned since '06

            "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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            • cywelchjr
              XS-XJ Super Guru(Deceased)
              • Oct 2008
              • 4450
              • Sacramento, CA

              #7
              Yep, that's the real point. You could swap the entire fork setup, keeping the original trees, but the inner and outer fork tubes are not interchangeable between standards and specials.
              Cy

              1980 XS1100G (Brutus) w/81H Engine
              Duplicolor Mirage Paint Job (Purple/Green)
              Vetter Windjammer IV
              Vetter hard bags & Trunk
              OEM Luggage Rack
              Jardine Spaghetti 4-2 exhaust system
              Spade Fuse Box
              Turn Signal Auto Cancel Mod
              750 FD Mod
              TC Spin on Oil Filter Adapter (temp removed)
              XJ1100 Front Footpegs
              XJ1100 Shocks

              I was always taught to respect my elders, but it keeps getting harder to find one.

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              • Geezer
                XS-XJ Guru
                • May 2003
                • 2985
                • Willamina, Oregon 97229

                #8
                I wonder how DennyZ did it. He put special tubes in a standard then used the extra length above the top clamp to put on clip-ons...

                Geezer
                Hi my name is Tony and I'm a bikeoholic.

                The old gray biker ain't what he used to be.

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                • cywelchjr
                  XS-XJ Super Guru(Deceased)
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 4450
                  • Sacramento, CA

                  #9
                  He would have had to changed the bushings and such at the bottom of the tubes to the standard ones to work in the standard outer tubes. A mismatch will either bind or have too much slop depending on which way you go.

                  At least that is what I have read in here, I think it was when b_walker was replacing his bent forks.
                  Cy

                  1980 XS1100G (Brutus) w/81H Engine
                  Duplicolor Mirage Paint Job (Purple/Green)
                  Vetter Windjammer IV
                  Vetter hard bags & Trunk
                  OEM Luggage Rack
                  Jardine Spaghetti 4-2 exhaust system
                  Spade Fuse Box
                  Turn Signal Auto Cancel Mod
                  750 FD Mod
                  TC Spin on Oil Filter Adapter (temp removed)
                  XJ1100 Front Footpegs
                  XJ1100 Shocks

                  I was always taught to respect my elders, but it keeps getting harder to find one.

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                  • bikerphil
                    Master of XSology
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 8628
                    • South Flori-DUH

                    #10
                    When I tried the Special tubes in the Standard legs, they would bind up and not slide smoothly at all. The Standard tubes have the absence of a lower bushing, while the Special tubes have a lower bushing, just like most other type damper rod forks. Maybe he just left the lower bushings off altogether.
                    2H7 (79) owned since '89
                    3H3 owned since '06

                    "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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                    • cowboybob998
                      XStremely XSive
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 371
                      • KC MO

                      #11
                      thanks guys

                      I think I know what i need to do now.
                      I bought this parts bike with a good motor that had been wrecked the forks i think are bent, but i wanted to put the special front end on the standard trees, I may have some spare parts off this bike and would be willing to trade for some straight tubes, dont know yet need to get things apart and see what is hurt.
                      thanks yall
                      Bob
                      1979 xs1100 f
                      142 main, 45 pilot, Jardeen crosover 4/2, no air box
                      floats @ 25.7

                      1979 xs1100 F
                      1978 gl 1000 goldwing
                      1981 gl 1100 goldwing
                      !986 venture royale 1300

                      Just an ol long haired country boy, come to town to spend some egg money
                      when ya get bucked off, get back on

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                      • bikerphil
                        Master of XSology
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 8628
                        • South Flori-DUH

                        #12
                        Bob, I have some extra Standard fork tubes in good shape. If you're interested, shoot me a PM.
                        2H7 (79) owned since '89
                        3H3 owned since '06

                        "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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