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  • Eric_XJ
    XSive
    • May 2010
    • 56
    • Columbus, Ohio

    #1

    Alright, Tell me what these means

    Rode up to the gas station tonight and back (less than 3 miles round trip)

    Checked the temps on the exhaust (Mac 2-1 turnouts) after about 2-3 min and this is what I got:

    1 - 188
    2 - 237
    3 - 249
    4 - 241

    I'm guessing I'm running lean on 1 ? What are the normal temps on this thing ?
    -Eric

    82 XJ1100
    Mods:
    Mac 4 to 2 with turn out's
  • XSokieSPECIAL
    XS-XJ Guru
    • Jun 2009
    • 1631
    • Tulsa, OK

    #2
    Check your plugs, I'll bet your running rich on #1 and that plug is blacker than the others.

    Too much fuel will run cooler.

    Your not too far off though.

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    • Montreux_Blue
      XS-XJ Guru (Deceased)
      • May 2008
      • 1143
      • Longitude: -85ยฐ 57' 43" Latitude: 37ยฐ 52' 55"

      #3
      Greg uses his tongue to tell the temp on his headers....
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      1980 XS11 Special - chopped, dropped and OCTY is still installed - NOW IT'S FOR SALE! $1,800 OBO


      Famous Myspace quote:

      "Don't mess with TEXAS! It's not nice to pick on retards."

      It's funny because I am from TEXAS!

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      • Eric_XJ
        XSive
        • May 2010
        • 56
        • Columbus, Ohio

        #4
        Originally posted by XSokieSPECIAL
        Check your plugs, I'll bet your running rich on #1 and that plug is blacker than the others.

        Too much fuel will run cooler.

        Your not too far off though.
        What kind of temps should I expect ? Am I too lean on the other 3 ? All 4 plugs look dark around the ring, but look tan-ish white.
        -Eric

        82 XJ1100
        Mods:
        Mac 4 to 2 with turn out's

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        • DGXSER
          Doctor of XSology(Deceased)
          • Nov 2008
          • 12001
          • Cincinnati, Ohio

          #5
          My guess is those temps are in the normal range. As to no 1 and plug color, color sounds real good on all of them. Perhaps no 1 is only rich at idle. I'd not worry about it if the plugs look consitent and that good, and it feels like its running good.
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          80 XS1100 Special - Project Resurrection


          Previously owned
          93 GSX600F
          80 XS1100 Special - Ruby
          81 XS1100 Special
          81 CB750 C
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          • XSokieSPECIAL
            XS-XJ Guru
            • Jun 2009
            • 1631
            • Tulsa, OK

            #6
            Originally posted by Montreux_Blue
            Greg uses his tongue to tell the temp on his headers....
            My tongue is very useful in many ways.........ask your girlfriend!.....LOL....

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            • DGXSER
              Doctor of XSology(Deceased)
              • Nov 2008
              • 12001
              • Cincinnati, Ohio

              #7
              Originally posted by XSokieSPECIAL
              My tongue is very useful in many ways.........ask your girlfriend!.....LOL....
              So she has trouble sleeping alot and calls you to talk her to sleep??
              Life is what happens while your planning everything else!

              When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt.

              81 XS1100 Special - Humpty Dumpty
              80 XS1100 Special - Project Resurrection


              Previously owned
              93 GSX600F
              80 XS1100 Special - Ruby
              81 XS1100 Special
              81 CB750 C
              80 CB750 C
              78 XS750

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              • XSokieSPECIAL
                XS-XJ Guru
                • Jun 2009
                • 1631
                • Tulsa, OK

                #8
                Heh heh heh....well....sometimes we talk.......dirty....LOL...

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                • Montreux_Blue
                  XS-XJ Guru (Deceased)
                  • May 2008
                  • 1143
                  • Longitude: -85ยฐ 57' 43" Latitude: 37ยฐ 52' 55"

                  #9
                  Originally posted by XSokieSPECIAL
                  Heh heh heh....well....sometimes we talk.......dirty....LOL...
                  Hate to break it to you but we listen to you on speaker phone and mute it when we are laughing our azz off!!!!! Got it on tape too and sell those out of the trunk of the car!
                  http://www.myspace.com/i_give_you_power

                  1980 XS11 Special - chopped, dropped and OCTY is still installed - NOW IT'S FOR SALE! $1,800 OBO


                  Famous Myspace quote:

                  "Don't mess with TEXAS! It's not nice to pick on retards."

                  It's funny because I am from TEXAS!

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                  • XSokieSPECIAL
                    XS-XJ Guru
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 1631
                    • Tulsa, OK

                    #10
                    Like Don said, I think your pretty good.

                    How does it idle? Maybe try turning that #1 Idle mix screw in just a little.

                    Start at 1/4 turn and check it again, or if you know someone with a color tune that's the way to go.

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                    • XSokieSPECIAL
                      XS-XJ Guru
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 1631
                      • Tulsa, OK

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Montreux_Blue
                      Hate to break it to you but we listen to you on speaker phone and mute it when we are laughing our azz off!!!!! Got it on tape too and sell those out of the trunk of the car!
                      You sell those tapes at the same time your cruising around in that old car trying to lure little kids in there with you with candy?

                      I bet those tapes turn you on when you finally get one. Huh?...LOL...

                      There's a name for people like you in prison.......Mary...

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                      • Eric_XJ
                        XSive
                        • May 2010
                        • 56
                        • Columbus, Ohio

                        #12
                        Originally posted by DGXSER
                        My guess is those temps are in the normal range. As to no 1 and plug color, color sounds real good on all of them. Perhaps no 1 is only rich at idle. I'd not worry about it if the plugs look consitent and that good, and it feels like its running good.
                        That's the problem. It pops on accel and decel and does not idle well. it dies when the choke is off. I thought about changing the mix screw, but I'm trying to attack this logically. The plugs are the same that were on the bike when I got it. I'm going to change the plugs this weekend, guess I'll ride it and check em again. Just trying to get a feel for where I'm at.
                        -Eric

                        82 XJ1100
                        Mods:
                        Mac 4 to 2 with turn out's

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                        • CatatonicBug
                          Master of XSology
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 6117
                          • Clinton, UT

                          #13
                          Popping on decel is usually cured by properly adjusting the air/fuel mixture screws (colortune, or by ear). Try that, along with a proper sync, and then check the temps again.
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                          • brcree
                            XStremely XSive
                            • Mar 2010
                            • 388
                            • S.C.

                            #14
                            No 1 pipe

                            Hey Eric.....you may want to check and see if no. 1 air/fuel screw tip isn't broken off in the carb...I had two! All good info in here!
                            At this time:
                            1985 Goldwing Innr.
                            1976 cb 750 cafe racer
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                            • XSokieSPECIAL
                              XS-XJ Guru
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 1631
                              • Tulsa, OK

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Eric_XJ
                              That's the problem. It pops on accel and decel and does not idle well. it dies when the choke is off. I thought about changing the mix screw, but I'm trying to attack this logically. The plugs are the same that were on the bike when I got it. I'm going to change the plugs this weekend, guess I'll ride it and check em again. Just trying to get a feel for where I'm at.
                              If it's popping on acceleration like you said, it may NOT be a fuel problem.

                              Have you checked the pickup coils?

                              Make certain your not having an ignition problem, it can seem JUST like a carb problem.

                              I pulled and cleaned and adjusted my carbs......? times when I first got my XS thinking that's where the problem was.

                              I had a pickup coil wire going south that would make it act like a fuel problem.

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