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  • Suckerpunch
    Truly XSive
    • Apr 2010
    • 116
    • Portland Oregon

    #1

    Does anybody have.....

    Does anybody have a real clean crisp picture of how a master cylinder rebuld kit fits back together?

    Im having a problem with online guides being to fuzzy. The main problem is with the spring and the cup. I think they are on backwards.

    1980 xs1100sg
    Last edited by Suckerpunch; 05-13-2010, 09:06 AM.
    1980 XS1100 SG

    When in doubt, knock 'em out!

    I will not argue with idiots. They will only try to drag me down to their level and beat me with experience.
  • crazy steve
    XS-XJ Guru MODERATOR
    • Jan 2009
    • 7932
    • Beautiful outer Yelm, WA

    #2
    I just did mine... no pics, but I can tell you how it fits.

    The return spring is tapered, and has a metal 'cap' on the small end. The big end goes into the bore first. The rubber cup goes in next, with the open end towards the spring; the flat side is against the plunger. Plunger next, then the c-clip, then the seal/boot.

    One thing to check before assembly is to make sure the plunger moves freely in the bore. It takes very little corrosion to cause this to hang up, so I've honed the bore. A piece of wood dowling with a slit cut in it and some folded sandpaper (400-600 grit) works well.

    '78E original owner
    Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

    '78E original owner - resto project
    '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
    '82 XJ rebuild project
    '80SG restified, red SOLD
    '79F parts...
    '81H more parts...

    Other current bikes:
    '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
    '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
    '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
    Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
    Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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    • Suckerpunch
      Truly XSive
      • Apr 2010
      • 116
      • Portland Oregon

      #3
      ok, you have found my problem! I had the spring and cap backwards.

      Thanks for the very clear post.

      Originally posted by crazy steve
      I just did mine... no pics, but I can tell you how it fits.

      The return spring is tapered, and has a metal 'cap' on the small end. The big end goes into the bore first. The rubber cup goes in next, with the open end towards the spring; the flat side is against the plunger. Plunger next, then the c-clip, then the seal/boot.

      One thing to check before assembly is to make sure the plunger moves freely in the bore. It takes very little corrosion to cause this to hang up, so I've honed the bore. A piece of wood dowling with a slit cut in it and some folded sandpaper (400-600 grit) works well.

      '78E original owner
      1980 XS1100 SG

      When in doubt, knock 'em out!

      I will not argue with idiots. They will only try to drag me down to their level and beat me with experience.

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      • Suckerpunch
        Truly XSive
        • Apr 2010
        • 116
        • Portland Oregon

        #4
        I do have a flat washer I think goes in between the plunger and c-clip?
        Originally posted by crazy steve
        I just did mine... no pics, but I can tell you how it fits.

        The return spring is tapered, and has a metal 'cap' on the small end. The big end goes into the bore first. The rubber cup goes in next, with the open end towards the spring; the flat side is against the plunger. Plunger next, then the c-clip, then the seal/boot.

        One thing to check before assembly is to make sure the plunger moves freely in the bore. It takes very little corrosion to cause this to hang up, so I've honed the bore. A piece of wood dowling with a slit cut in it and some folded sandpaper (400-600 grit) works well.

        '78E original owner
        1980 XS1100 SG

        When in doubt, knock 'em out!

        I will not argue with idiots. They will only try to drag me down to their level and beat me with experience.

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        • WMarshy
          XS-XJ Guru
          • Apr 2009
          • 2402
          • Mexico NY

          #5
          Not sure if your talkin about the rear or front master... but on the rear master there is a thin flat washer under the seal. It goes, spring, 'cap', seal, washer, piston body. Place them in the bore, lube the bore and seal with some fluid so they slide in nice, then there is a washer that has a slot in it, slip that around the piston body once its in the bore and then put on the circlip.
          '79 XS11 F
          Stock except K&N

          '79 XS11 SF
          Stock, no title.

          '84 Chevy K-10 "Big Blue"
          GM 350, Muncie SM465, NP208, GM 10 Bolt with 3.42gears turnin 31x10.5 Baja Claws

          "What they do have is an implacable, unrelenting presence and movement that bespeaks massive power lurking behind paint and chrome. They don't wail like a screeching ninja, the don't rumble like a harley. They just growl like a spactic, stressed out badger waiting to rip your face off and eat your soul." Trainzz~RIP~

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          • crazy steve
            XS-XJ Guru MODERATOR
            • Jan 2009
            • 7932
            • Beautiful outer Yelm, WA

            #6
            Originally posted by Suckerpunch
            I do have a flat washer I think goes in between the plunger and c-clip?
            You're right... I forgot about that.

            '78E original owner
            Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

            '78E original owner - resto project
            '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
            '82 XJ rebuild project
            '80SG restified, red SOLD
            '79F parts...
            '81H more parts...

            Other current bikes:
            '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
            '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
            '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
            Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
            Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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            • Suckerpunch
              Truly XSive
              • Apr 2010
              • 116
              • Portland Oregon

              #7
              sorry, front master.

              Originally posted by WMarshy
              Not sure if your talkin about the rear or front master... but on the rear master there is a thin flat washer under the seal. It goes, spring, 'cap', seal, washer, piston body. Place them in the bore, lube the bore and seal with some fluid so they slide in nice, then there is a washer that has a slot in it, slip that around the piston body once its in the bore and then put on the circlip.
              1980 XS1100 SG

              When in doubt, knock 'em out!

              I will not argue with idiots. They will only try to drag me down to their level and beat me with experience.

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              • Suckerpunch
                Truly XSive
                • Apr 2010
                • 116
                • Portland Oregon

                #8
                It was pointed out but, I assume you too are talking about the front master?

                Originally posted by crazy steve
                You're right... I forgot about that.

                '78E original owner
                1980 XS1100 SG

                When in doubt, knock 'em out!

                I will not argue with idiots. They will only try to drag me down to their level and beat me with experience.

                Comment

                • crazy steve
                  XS-XJ Guru MODERATOR
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 7932
                  • Beautiful outer Yelm, WA

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Suckerpunch
                  It was pointed out but, I assume you too are talking about the front master?
                  Yes...
                  The rear is harder to 'mis-assemble', but Marshy covered that. The main thing to remember on any hydraulic system is the 'open' or 'flared' side of the seal/cup goes towards the pressure side of the system.

                  '78E original owner
                  Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

                  '78E original owner - resto project
                  '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
                  '82 XJ rebuild project
                  '80SG restified, red SOLD
                  '79F parts...
                  '81H more parts...

                  Other current bikes:
                  '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
                  '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
                  '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
                  Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
                  Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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                  • FJ111200
                    XStremely XSive
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 317
                    • Crewe, Cheshire, UK

                    #10
                    Tom on the UK site has just posted up some clear drawings of the XS parts. Looks like it's from Holland or Belgium.

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