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  • rgoot01
    XSive
    • Apr 2010
    • 74
    • Salida,CO

    #1

    Starter solenoid-??????

    would it be possible to use a starter solenoid from a car or truck , like I have on my '72 ford, to start my bike. The old solenoid is bad and I just want to start the bike.
  • bikerphil
    Master of XSology
    • Jan 2008
    • 8629
    • South Flori-DUH

    #2
    Yes you can, it works the same way. Problem you might have is the automotive ones are probably larger and might not fit under the side cover. Possibly could be relocated? BTW, the stock unit can be disassembled and repaired, someone has written a good tech tip on this.
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    3H3 owned since '06

    "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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    • rgoot01
      XSive
      • Apr 2010
      • 74
      • Salida,CO

      #3
      Thanks for the quick reply. I found the thread on rebuilding the solenoid also. I think I will probably use the auto style however, because I have chopped the frame and mounting the new solenoid would be easier with auto style.

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      • rgoot01
        XSive
        • Apr 2010
        • 74
        • Salida,CO

        #4
        Installed starter solenoid on bike that is for 72 ford f-100. The problem now is that when you turn the key to on and switch to run it turns engine without using start button.
        Why would it be doing this?

        Thaks,
        Rob

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        • CatatonicBug
          Master of XSology
          • Oct 2008
          • 6117
          • Clinton, UT

          #5
          Originally posted by rgoot01
          Installed starter solenoid on bike that is for 72 ford f-100. The problem now is that when you turn the key to on and switch to run it turns engine without using start button.
          Why would it be doing this?

          Thaks,
          Rob
          Your starter switch is probably shorting. Check continuity on the wires to the switch. They should not have continuity unless the button is pressed.
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          • rgoot01
            XSive
            • Apr 2010
            • 74
            • Salida,CO

            #6
            Can you explain more in detail? When I check wires at switch I beep on 3 of the four lugs on solenoid. The starter turns even with button disconnected at solenoid. This is the only lug on solenoid I don't get a beep from.

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            • CatatonicBug
              Master of XSology
              • Oct 2008
              • 6117
              • Clinton, UT

              #7
              There are 4 connections. Usually 2 large, and 2 small.
              1 large - positive battery connection
              2 large - line to starter (and the TCI)
              3 small - line to switch
              4 small - line to switch

              There should be no connection between 3 & 4 unless the starter button is pressed. Releasing the starter button (thereby cutting the electicity to the starter) is the only thing that stops the starter from spinning. If the switch is shorted somewhere, and is not disconnecting, that could be what is allowing the starter to spin as soon as the key is powered on.
              1980 XS850SG - Sold
              1981 XS1100LH Midnight Special (Sold) - purchased 9/29/08
              Fully Vetterized and Dynojet Kit added, Heated Grips, Truck-Lite LED headlight, Accel Coils, Irridium plugs, TKAT Fork Brace, XS850LH Final Drive & Black SS Brake lines from Chacal.
              Here's my web page devoted to my bike! XS/XJ User's Manuals there, and the XJ1100 Service Manual and both XS1100 Service manuals (free download!).

              Whether you think you can, or you think you cannot - You're right.
              -H. Ford

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              • MeatTooth
                Truly XSive
                • Apr 2009
                • 175
                • Tulsa, Oklahoma

                #8
                I think I know what's going on.....I did the same thing to mine The blue with white stripe wire grounds out on the bottom metal mounting plate of the solenoid. But the bottom mounting plate cannot be grounded to the frame that's why mine is mounted to a board and the board is mounted to the frame.........it's the only way I could get my Ford solenoid to work. here's a pic
                1980 XS1100G
                Tulsa, OK

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                • rgoot01
                  XSive
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 74
                  • Salida,CO

                  #9
                  Thanks meattooth, thats exactly whats going on. I'll do it like you have yours set up and give her a try.

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                  • CatatonicBug
                    Master of XSology
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 6117
                    • Clinton, UT

                    #10
                    Ahh! That's why the stock solenoid is suspended in a rubber "sling"! Good to know!
                    1980 XS850SG - Sold
                    1981 XS1100LH Midnight Special (Sold) - purchased 9/29/08
                    Fully Vetterized and Dynojet Kit added, Heated Grips, Truck-Lite LED headlight, Accel Coils, Irridium plugs, TKAT Fork Brace, XS850LH Final Drive & Black SS Brake lines from Chacal.
                    Here's my web page devoted to my bike! XS/XJ User's Manuals there, and the XJ1100 Service Manual and both XS1100 Service manuals (free download!).

                    Whether you think you can, or you think you cannot - You're right.
                    -H. Ford

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                    • rgoot01
                      XSive
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 74
                      • Salida,CO

                      #11
                      Originally posted by MeatTooth
                      I think I know what's going on.....I did the same thing to mine The blue with white stripe wire grounds out on the bottom metal mounting plate of the solenoid. But the bottom mounting plate cannot be grounded to the frame that's why mine is mounted to a board and the board is mounted to the frame.........it's the only way I could get my Ford solenoid to work. here's a pic
                      Thanks for the help. I hooked up the solenoid as you have done in the pic and now everything works fine. The difference in my mounting however is that I found some rubber isolators at the local True Value which allow me to mount it to the steel plate I had welded in place and the isolators keep it from grounding.

                      Thanks again,
                      Rob

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                      • MeatTooth
                        Truly XSive
                        • Apr 2009
                        • 175
                        • Tulsa, Oklahoma

                        #12
                        Glad to save you some trouble.........when I hooked mine up for the first time I had everything buttoned up and the starter almost burnt up while I was trying to figure out what was going on.
                        1980 XS1100G
                        Tulsa, OK

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