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  • #16
    i've been searching for the post where a guy put up his "simplified wiring diagram" but cannot seem to find it, searched and it didn't come up. any ideas?
    1980 Yamaha XS 1100 SG
    17,xxx miles
    Cafe Racer soon
    Needs brake pads
    Looks really rough, but I LOVE IT!

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    • #17
      Originally posted by apg0106 View Post
      i've been searching for the post where a guy put up his "simplified wiring diagram" but cannot seem to find it, searched and it didn't come up. any ideas?
      Hi apg,
      ask Ken Maxwell. Google "ken maxwell wiring diagrams" would be my best guess to find his stuff on line. His XS650 diagram has ~7 wires on it, just like my BSA.
      Fred Hill, S'toon
      XS11SG with Spirit of America sidecar
      "The Flying Pumpkin"

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      • #18
        Here's one I copied from somewhere, maybe the one...

        2H7 (79) owned since '89
        3H3 owned since '06

        "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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        • #19
          Alright, well, update #1. April 4th 2010: Went to mess around with the bike yesterday, took pics, girlfriend had the memory card out, so, yea, notta to put up yet. Took the pod filters i have on there off, a little bit of gas in each one, i could use a napkin to get all 4 dried up, so im not sure whats causing that. I've been in a battle with getting the title to this damn thing for 8 months now. Still haven't gotten anywhere with it yet, so, im wondering if i am going to get any riding time this summer and am debating on stripping it down, frame and all. Anyways, i'll keep ya posted
          1980 Yamaha XS 1100 SG
          17,xxx miles
          Cafe Racer soon
          Needs brake pads
          Looks really rough, but I LOVE IT!

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          • #20
            today

            got some stuff done on the bike, check out the photobucket to see the pictures. got the 04' triples on there, here comes some serious work though! thanks for everything guys/gals!

            http://photobucket.com/1965beetle
            Last edited by apg0106; 04-10-2010, 06:19 PM. Reason: insert link
            1980 Yamaha XS 1100 SG
            17,xxx miles
            Cafe Racer soon
            Needs brake pads
            Looks really rough, but I LOVE IT!

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            • #21
              waitin to order the forks, axle, and brake assembly! bout $450 for the rest of it, then finding a rim that looks good on the front. so far so good, looking to buy a welder to get that frame done, thinking about a drive shaft extension to get the rear end out a little more, but probably not. I am really enjoying working on this thing, and im glad i have this forum to come to in case i have questions...i'd be LOST without you guys!
              1980 Yamaha XS 1100 SG
              17,xxx miles
              Cafe Racer soon
              Needs brake pads
              Looks really rough, but I LOVE IT!

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              • #22
                hey guys, hopefully people still read this thread, i need some advice! Okay, so i know the top and lower bearings are tapered, im trying to figure out what the reasoning for this is. I have the busa triples mounted, but for now, i used a regular flat sided enclosed bearing rated to 25,000 rpm i think, something like that, i tapped the race out of the top and the flat sided bearing pressed right in. Everything works smoothly, im trying to find out why tapered bearings are used if this flat side bearing works just fine. I've searched it already and cannot find the answer. Thanks again
                1980 Yamaha XS 1100 SG
                17,xxx miles
                Cafe Racer soon
                Needs brake pads
                Looks really rough, but I LOVE IT!

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                • #23
                  my understanding is that tapered roller bearings, like the xs has stock have a longer life span and require less replacement/maintenance then regular ball bearings, and are "better" for street use. The sealed type ball bearings are supposed to provide better "road feel" and are used mainly for track bikes.
                  1979 xs1100 Special -
                  Stock air box/K&N Filter, MAC 4-2 exhaust, Bad-Boy Air horn, TC fuse box, Windshield, Soft bags, Vetter Fairing, Blinkers->Run/Turn/Brake Lights, Headlight Modulator, hard wire GPS power

                  Short Stack - 1981 xs1100 Standard - lowered for SWMBO.

                  Originally posted by fredintoon
                  Goes like a train, corners like a cow, shifts like a Russian tractor, drinks like a fish, you are gonna love it.
                  My Bike:
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                  • #24
                    Okay, thank you very much for that info. Well, for now i'll use that bearing until i can kick myself in the a$$ to spend the $45 on the tapered.
                    1980 Yamaha XS 1100 SG
                    17,xxx miles
                    Cafe Racer soon
                    Needs brake pads
                    Looks really rough, but I LOVE IT!

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by apg0106 View Post
                      hey guys, hopefully people still read this thread, i need some advice! Okay, so i know the top and lower bearings are tapered, im trying to figure out what the reasoning for this is. I have the busa triples mounted, but for now, i used a regular flat sided enclosed bearing rated to 25,000 rpm i think, something like that, i tapped the race out of the top and the flat sided bearing pressed right in. Everything works smoothly, im trying to find out why tapered bearings are used if this flat side bearing works just fine. I've searched it already and cannot find the answer. Thanks again
                      Hi apg,
                      you pressed in a sealed ball race that just happened to fit?
                      Never mind the 25,000 rpm on a bearing that moves dead slow and not in a full circle, it ain't relevant.
                      Check the bearing book that gave you the rpm number for the race END THRUST rating.
                      Now check the rating on a Timken tapered roller bearing.
                      Betcha the Timkens have at least 5 times the load rating.
                      That's why they put them there.
                      Fred Hill, S'toon
                      XS11SG with Spirit of America sidecar
                      "The Flying Pumpkin"

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                      • #26
                        the bearing is a 30x47x12. which is the size of the bearing needed to put the 04' busa front end on from what i've researched. i posted that question just to find out what tapered bearings are used, that was all.
                        1980 Yamaha XS 1100 SG
                        17,xxx miles
                        Cafe Racer soon
                        Needs brake pads
                        Looks really rough, but I LOVE IT!

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                        • #27
                          thank you for the added information on what to look for when getting a bearing though!
                          1980 Yamaha XS 1100 SG
                          17,xxx miles
                          Cafe Racer soon
                          Needs brake pads
                          Looks really rough, but I LOVE IT!

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                          • #28
                            I live a couple hours north of you, by brookings SD. And there are no xs1100 here either, just more HD than you can shake a stick at. I am about 2 to 3 weeks from finishing my xs1100 custom. Finishing the True Fire Blue Flames this week. Might have to ride down to see yours sometime, as I also need some Popeye's chicken.
                            1980 xs1100g mostly. "Adrenalize - the Yamaha I always wanted to be able to order"

                            Modified frame, side covers, seat, back rest, engine, carbs, airbox, hoses, headlight assembly, turn signals, mirriors, handle bars, grips, v rated tires, gauges, homemade 4-2 exhaust system, leather upholstery, custom paint including True Fire Flames air brush work. A 25 year dream realizied.

                            "It ain't braggin if you can do it" Muhammad Ali

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by apg0106 View Post
                              hey guys, hopefully people still read this thread, i need some advice! Okay, so i know the top and lower bearings are tapered, im trying to figure out what the reasoning for this is. I have the busa triples mounted, but for now, i used a regular flat sided enclosed bearing rated to 25,000 rpm i think, something like that, i tapped the race out of the top and the flat sided bearing pressed right in. Everything works smoothly, im trying to find out why tapered bearings are used if this flat side bearing works just fine. I've searched it already and cannot find the answer. Thanks again
                              The main reason for tapered bearings at all the pivot points to remove any 'play' from these shafts (you'll also find these on the rear swingarm, and for the same reason). If you have any side-to-side or front-to-back play at the fork stem, weird handling will result when the stem 'chatters' and you can have the dreaded 'tank slapper'. As Fred stated, the tapered bearings can take the end thrust when run at basically zero clearance with a preload.

                              '78E original owner
                              Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

                              '78E original owner - resto project
                              '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
                              '82 XJ rebuild project
                              '80SG restified, red SOLD
                              '79F parts...
                              '81H more parts...

                              Other current bikes:
                              '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
                              '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
                              '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
                              Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
                              Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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                              • #30
                                Hi apg,
                                I live down south of you a couple of hours. You don't see too many xs's around here, but I see one every once in a while. It doesnt take much style to be like everyone else.....but when you ride an xs...

                                I hope you get that title soon, it's getting to be great riding weather!
                                Jon
                                '80 XS11 SG "My Serenity"

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