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    Just when I thought side chair rigs were a bit of a rarity down this way another pops up.

    http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Mo...-278237406.htm

    Can some one explain the front axle set up to me?
    1980 SG. (Sold - waiting on replacement)
    2000 XJR1300. The Real modern XS11. Others are just pretenders.

    Woman (well, my wife anyway) are always on Transmit and never Receive.

    "A man should look for what is, and not for what he thinks should be" Albert Einstien.

  • #2
    it looks to be a variation of something called leading legs. used to move the axle forward to reduce trail and make steering easier. this can be done on xs11's by swapping special forks and trees.stock xs11's with 5+ inches of trail steer like a truck.
    fly 78xs/hitchhiker

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    • #3
      Originally posted by fly View Post
      it looks to be a variation of something called leading legs. used to move the axle forward to reduce trail and make steering easier. this can be done on xs11's by swapping special forks and trees.stock xs11's with 5+ inches of trail steer like a truck.
      fly 78xs/hitchhiker
      Hi Fly,
      dunno what you did with your '78 but to do the fork parts shuffle on a Standard you gotta install the entire fork from the tubes on down into the Standard's triple trees.
      This moves the axle ~2" forward but you are stuck with the Special's Weird Harold front calipers and buying a whole bunch of used parts.
      The conversion in the photos uses only what was on the bike before, plus some really inspired bracketry.
      A real neat job.
      Fred Hill, S'toon
      XS11SG with Spirit of America sidecar
      "The Flying Pumpkin"

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      • #4
        Originally posted by fredintoon View Post
        ...The conversion in the photos uses only what was on the bike before, plus some really inspired bracketry.
        A real neat job.
        Yeah Fred, but he's got the hack on the 'wrong' side of the bike...

        '78E original owner
        Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick any two

        '78E original owner - resto project
        '78E ???? owner - Modder project FJ forks, 4-piston calipers F/R, 160/80-16 rear tire
        '82 XJ rebuild project
        '80SG restified, red SOLD
        '79F parts...
        '81H more parts...

        Other current bikes:
        '93 XL1200 Anniversary Sportster 85RWHP
        '86 XL883/1200 Chopper
        '82 XL1000 w/1450cc Buell, Baker 6-speed, in-progress project
        Cage: '13 Mustang GT/CS with a few 'custom' touches
        Yep, can't leave nuthin' alone...

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        • #5
          Originally posted by crazy steve View Post
          Yeah Fred, but he's got the hack on the 'wrong' side of the bike...

          '78E original owner
          Hi Steve,
          this is not a new thought but it bears repeating.
          The medieval Brit's rode on the left side of the road so that their sword arms would face an oncoming enemy.
          Meanwhile the cowardly French rode on the right side of the road so they could hide behind their shields.
          Doubtless the American revolutionaries adopted the French system in defiance of KG3 and his Hessians and the Canadians were even then under the influence of Quebec.
          And that's why the right side is the wrong side.
          Fred Hill, S'toon
          XS11SG with Spirit of America sidecar
          "The Flying Pumpkin"

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          • #6
            Originally posted by fredintoon View Post
            Hi Steve,
            this is not a new thought but it bears repeating.
            The medieval Brit's rode on the left side of the road so that their sword arms would face an oncoming enemy.
            Meanwhile the cowardly French rode on the right side of the road so they could hide behind their shields.
            Doubtless the American revolutionaries adopted the French system in defiance of KG3 and his Hessians and the Canadians were even then under the influence of Quebec.
            And that's why the right side is the wrong side.
            I understood it to be similar, but that driving habits in england were pretty much figured out before the advent of the pistol, where our side of the pond were formed under the influence of firearms. It's easier to fight to the right with a sword, but it's easier to fight to the left with a firearm (for the majority right handers that is). It's easier to fire a handgun towards the left than towards the right. As for the french, they may have just refused to do it the same way and the english?
            Cy

            1980 XS1100G (Brutus) w/81H Engine
            Duplicolor Mirage Paint Job (Purple/Green)
            Vetter Windjammer IV
            Vetter hard bags & Trunk
            OEM Luggage Rack
            Jardine Spaghetti 4-2 exhaust system
            Spade Fuse Box
            Turn Signal Auto Cancel Mod
            750 FD Mod
            TC Spin on Oil Filter Adapter (temp removed)
            XJ1100 Front Footpegs
            XJ1100 Shocks

            I was always taught to respect my elders, but it keeps getting harder to find one.

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            • #7
              I dunno about you, Fred, but anything the Brits do that is different from the way we do it here, is the "wrong" way as far as I'm concerned!
              1980 XS850SG - Sold
              1981 XS1100LH Midnight Special (Sold) - purchased 9/29/08
              Fully Vetterized and Dynojet Kit added, Heated Grips, Truck-Lite LED headlight, Accel Coils, Irridium plugs, TKAT Fork Brace, XS850LH Final Drive & Black SS Brake lines from Chacal.
              Here's my web page devoted to my bike! XS/XJ User's Manuals there, and the XJ1100 Service Manual and both XS1100 Service manuals (free download!).

              Whether you think you can, or you think you cannot - You're right.
              -H. Ford

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              • #8
                Originally posted by fredintoon View Post
                And that's why the right side is the wrong side.
                Fred, Fred, Fred...

                You should know that unlike the British Parliament the U.S. House and Senate do not have aisles the width of two sword lengths. That's because by the time America was discovered and the U.S. was invented, firearms were popular and so was dueling with pistols. We incorporated firearms into our way of life and our Constitution so never bring a sword to a gun fight.

                Most people are right-handed and it is, naturally, easier to shoot across to the left and nail the supercilious sons on the opposing side than it is to try to bend your arm and wrist or jam your rifle into yourself when raising it to the ready as someone approaches close on the right.

                That's why the right side is the correct side.


                Regards,

                Scott
                -- Scott
                _____

                2004 ST1300A: No name... yet
                1982 XJ1100J: "Baby" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
                1980 XS1100G: "Columbo" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
                1979 XS1100SF: "Bush" W.I.P.
                1979 XS1100F: parts
                2018 Heritage Softail Classic 117 FLHCS SE: "Nanuk" It's DEAD, it's not just resting. It is an EX cycle.

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                • #9
                  Thats funny, I thought it was because the yanks just had to be different..
                  Last edited by b.walker5; 03-28-2010, 02:09 AM. Reason: typo
                  1980 SG. (Sold - waiting on replacement)
                  2000 XJR1300. The Real modern XS11. Others are just pretenders.

                  Woman (well, my wife anyway) are always on Transmit and never Receive.

                  "A man should look for what is, and not for what he thinks should be" Albert Einstien.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by b.walker5 View Post
                    Thats funny, I thought it was because the yanks just had to be different..
                    Nah, we've mostly kept our stuff the same for a couple of centuries now.

                    The Brits that wanted 'bigger' gallons. Not our idea.

                    Yerp'eans wanted a new measuring system that required all new tooling, tools and machines because the kids were too thick to use simple fractions. Not our idea.

                    A bunch of thermometer salescritters thought it would be brilliant if they could get everyone to use a laboratory measurement for real-world temperatures and suddenly everyone needed new thermometers, too. Not our idea.

                    Some of our best ideas have been invented here and the ones we didn't invent we shamelessly stole or chased down dark alleys and shook them down at gunpoint.


                    Well, that should at least begin to fill that 5lb, erm, I mean 2.26796185 Kilogram sack of manure! How're the boots?


                    Regards,

                    Scott
                    -- Scott
                    _____

                    2004 ST1300A: No name... yet
                    1982 XJ1100J: "Baby" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
                    1980 XS1100G: "Columbo" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
                    1979 XS1100SF: "Bush" W.I.P.
                    1979 XS1100F: parts
                    2018 Heritage Softail Classic 117 FLHCS SE: "Nanuk" It's DEAD, it's not just resting. It is an EX cycle.

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                    • #11
                      Oh boy......
                      '81H (my first XS ) "Grey Ghost"
                      Stock Pilots/ 110 mains (to change)
                      4:1 Jardine w/ headerwrap
                      Windjammer(wiring issues)
                      SonyMarine unit for Ipod/Polk Speakers
                      New paint/brakes to come!!
                      ===============
                      '80G FrankenBike (parts bike)
                      ===============
                      '80G to fix "BlackSunshine"
                      Stock Pilots/125 mains
                      Pod filters; 4:1 Kerker??
                      SS Brake lines w/ new M/C's
                      LED Brake Lite
                      Needs paint....

                      It is better to be thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt....

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