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  • Broken idle mixture screws!!! HELP

    3 of my 4 have broken tips. I have tried the pick and needle methods posted in the repair tech tips. These buggers just do not want to come out.

    Any other suggestions?

    Also, where is the best place to get replacements?

    Thanks
    1979 XS1100 Standard
    Putting it together........

  • #2
    Some of these guys have had luck by putting the carb bank in the freezer. Search for carbs in the freezer, lol. I've ordered those early type mixture screws from Bike Bandit$ before, but they are probably available somewhere else cheaper.
    2H7 (79) owned since '89
    3H3 owned since '06

    "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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    • #3
      Be prepared.....

      .....to use every dirty word that ever existed. And try EVERYTHING!

      There are several good ideas here that have worked for others. Just do a search.

      Check here for carb parts,

      http://www.carbkitscapital.com/int_img/page_head.jpg

      Or Georgefix,

      http://stores.ebay.com/GEORGEFIXS-MOTORCYCLE-PARTS

      or sometimes ebay has some stuff.

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      • #4
        Ignore the pliers, was an idea that I never got around to finishing

        BUT, note the little goodie in the lower right of pic.
        I ground down a FUBARed tap, so the pointy part was just a tad smaller diameter than pilot screw tip. Nice hardened steel

        Placed in a vise grip, then held positioned in the carb, takes but a single tap on the pliers with a wrench to pop out stuck pins. Has worked when all other ideas failed.





        mro

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        • #5
          The last time I worked on a bike with that problem, I was able to push the broken end out with the smooth rounded end of a ratchet. After it was no longer protruding, it fell right out.

          Geezer
          Hi my name is Tony and I'm a bikeoholic.

          The old gray biker ain't what he used to be.

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          • #6
            In the past I have had to use a new 1/16" drill bit and very carefully go at it from the threaded side. I was not trying to drill thru, but just remove a bulk of the material until it was weak enough to be able punch it thru with a small safety pin. Careful not to hit the threads or go to deep.

            Might be able to find what you need here. Bottom of page.
            http://www.mikesxs.net/products-37.html#products
            1980 XS1100LG

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            • #7
              I used the stuff in this thread. It worked great!
              http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread...freeze+release
              2-79 XS1100 SF
              2-78 XS1100 E Best bike Ever
              80 XS 1100 SG Big bore kit but not fully running yet.
              Couple of more parts bikes of which 2 more will live!

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              • #8
                btdt

                Yeah that sucks, what I did was fill up the holes with pb blaster stuck the whole rack of carbs in the freezer for like 5 hours pulled them out and used a 90 degree mechanics pick and a big box end to apply some leverage and they popped. Right out be real easy you don't want to gouge out the holes
                91 kwaka kz1000p
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                ( Insert clever quote here )

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                • #9
                  Tried everything but the freezer trick and mro's custom drift
                  (did not think of either of those, alas)
                  Ended up drilling the busted end out in the pillar drill using a 1/16" drill bit. A 1mm (0.040") drill bit is perfect but I didn't have one and the drill's chuck don't like to grip anything that small anyway.
                  Worked great after, just didn't have to open it as far as the others.
                  Fred Hill, S'toon
                  XS11SG with Spirit of America sidecar
                  "The Flying Pumpkin"

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                  • #10
                    Holy sheet! Nothing has worked. Next comes the drill. Is pillar drill a Canadian term? I have never heard that name for a drill press.
                    1979 XS1100 Standard
                    Putting it together........

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                    • #11
                      If the hole in the carb throat does get a little buggered up when your drilling, don't sweat it, it will still work. The idle adjustment will just be a bit more sensitive. Three out of four holes on my Special's carbs are slightly enlarged and the mixture screw tip sticks down into the throat a bit, but it runs fine. YMMV
                      2H7 (79) owned since '89
                      3H3 owned since '06

                      "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Giggity View Post
                        Holy sheet! Nothing has worked. Next comes the drill. Is pillar drill a Canadian term? I have never heard that name for a drill press.
                        Hi Giggity,
                        Sorry, it's my Brit accent. In American it's a drill press that has a long enough pillar that it sits on the floor.
                        Do NOT try drilling the busted needle tip out with a hand-held power drill.
                        NOBODY has wrists that are accurate enough.
                        Fred Hill, S'toon
                        XS11SG with Spirit of America sidecar
                        "The Flying Pumpkin"

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                        • #13
                          Ended up having to drill them out - by hand!

                          Nothing Mike's has looks like the right part.

                          Is this the one?

                          http://www.carbkitscapital.com/carb_...=Mixture_Screw

                          or do I need this one?

                          https://www.zanottimotor.com/shopping/pLookUp.php
                          1979 XS1100 Standard
                          Putting it together........

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                          • #14
                            Bro, you need this kind...

                            http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Yamah...Q5fAccessories

                            Maybe you could send Georgefix on eBay a message asking for what you need, I know he's got those screws.
                            Last edited by bikerphil; 03-28-2010, 12:44 AM.
                            2H7 (79) owned since '89
                            3H3 owned since '06

                            "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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                            • #15
                              we need a fix

                              For drilled out idle mix holes, maybe drill it out a little and replace with a conical plug with a stock size hole, any ideas out there
                              91 kwaka kz1000p
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                              ( Insert clever quote here )

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