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  • Geezer
    XS-XJ Guru
    • May 2003
    • 2985
    • Willamina, Oregon 97229

    #1

    XS11 and XJ1100 valves

    I found a supplier that lists valves for Japanese bike by specs. Anybody know the specs for XS11 and XJ1100 valves? None of my books have this info.

    Geezer
    Hi my name is Tony and I'm a bikeoholic.

    The old gray biker ain't what he used to be.
  • 81xsproject
    XS-XJ Super Guru
    • Nov 2004
    • 3185
    • Fortuna, CA

    #2
    Tony, do they have any options like SS valves? Or are you just trying to find another bike that uses the same valves?
    '81 XS1100 SH

    Melted to the ground during The Valley Fire

    Sep. 12th 2015

    RIP

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    • dpotter58
      XS-XJ Guru
      • Aug 2004
      • 1833
      • Southern Maryland

      #3
      for an sf

      this is from my supplementary manual

      intake
      head diameter 36 +/- 0.2 mm
      face width 2.26 +/- 0.57 mm
      seat width 1.1 +/- 0.1mm
      margin thickness (min) 1.2 +/- 0.2 mm

      stem diameter 7 -0.0010 mm
      -0.0025
      exhaust
      head diameter 31 +0.2 mm
      face width 2.26 +/- 0.57 mm
      seat width 1.1 +/- 0.1mm
      margin thickness (min) 1.2 +/- 02mm
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      1980 LG
      1981 LH

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      • Geezer
        XS-XJ Guru
        • May 2003
        • 2985
        • Willamina, Oregon 97229

        #4
        Do you know what year these specs are for?

        Geezer

        Originally posted by dpotter58
        this is from my supplementary manual

        intake
        head diameter 36 +/- 0.2 mm
        face width 2.26 +/- 0.57 mm
        seat width 1.1 +/- 0.1mm
        margin thickness (min) 1.2 +/- 0.2 mm

        stem diameter 7 -0.0010 mm
        -0.0025
        exhaust
        head diameter 31 +0.2 mm
        face width 2.26 +/- 0.57 mm
        seat width 1.1 +/- 0.1mm
        margin thickness (min) 1.2 +/- 02mm
        Hi my name is Tony and I'm a bikeoholic.

        The old gray biker ain't what he used to be.

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        • 81xsproject
          XS-XJ Super Guru
          • Nov 2004
          • 3185
          • Fortuna, CA

          #5
          Since he owns 2 '81's and mentions that it is from the 'supplementary' manual, it is probably for the late model/80/larger valve heads. Which, of course, would be the most important valves to source
          '81 XS1100 SH

          Melted to the ground during The Valley Fire

          Sep. 12th 2015

          RIP

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          • DiverRay
            Moderator
            • Nov 2004
            • 7603
            • Star, IDAHO

            #6
            He stated that it's for the SF, a 1979 Engine.
            The specs for the '81 are as follows:
            Intake:
            38mm head diameter
            2.26 -+0.57mm face width
            1.1-+0.1mm seat width
            0.7mm minimum margin
            7mm -0.010 to -0.025mm stem O.D.
            Exhaust:
            32mm head dia.
            2.26 -+0.57 face
            1.1-+0.1mm seat
            0.7mm min. margin
            7mm -0.025 to -0.040mm stem O.D.
            This is from LIT-11616-XS-13 The "H" manual with the previous manuals included.
            Ray Matteis
            KE6NHG
            XS1100 E '78 (winter project)
            XS1100 SF Bob Jones worked on it!

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            • Geezer
              XS-XJ Guru
              • May 2003
              • 2985
              • Willamina, Oregon 97229

              #7
              OK, if I can get stem length, I can see if we can get them. I would be nice if I could get the specs on the earlier engine's valves without pulling the head off one of my engines...

              Geezer
              Hi my name is Tony and I'm a bikeoholic.

              The old gray biker ain't what he used to be.

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              • psycoreefer
                XS-XJ Guru
                • Feb 2008
                • 1557
                • Minden, NV

                #8
                Originally posted by dpotter58
                for an sf
                it's in the "title"

                so now you have both early and late....
                1979 xs1100 Special -
                Stock air box/K&N Filter, MAC 4-2 exhaust, Bad-Boy Air horn, TC fuse box, Windshield, Soft bags, Vetter Fairing, Blinkers->Run/Turn/Brake Lights, Headlight Modulator, hard wire GPS power

                Short Stack - 1981 xs1100 Standard - lowered for SWMBO.

                Originally posted by fredintoon
                Goes like a train, corners like a cow, shifts like a Russian tractor, drinks like a fish, you are gonna love it.
                My Bike:
                [link is broken]

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                • Geezer
                  XS-XJ Guru
                  • May 2003
                  • 2985
                  • Willamina, Oregon 97229

                  #9
                  Once I have the lengths, I'll see what I can do...

                  Those 38mm intakes are going to be tough but the later valves are available from CRC anyway.

                  Geezer
                  Hi my name is Tony and I'm a bikeoholic.

                  The old gray biker ain't what he used to be.

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                  • tinman905
                    XSive Maximus
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 946
                    • Orangeville,Ontario ,Canada

                    #10
                    If it helps I believe the FJ1100/1200 use the same valves .
                    BDF Special
                    80SG Vetter bagger 1196 Wiseco big bore kit, Mega Cycle Cams, slotted cam gears, ported and flowed head, bronze intake seats, Dyno Jet kit, Dyno coils and Mikes XS air pods, Venture cam chain adjuster,Geezer's regulator, Clutch mod, Mac 4 into 1 with custom built and tuned baffle, Oil cooler,MikesXS emulators mod.
                    Dyno tuned to 98 hp at the rear wheel.

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                    • Geezer
                      XS-XJ Guru
                      • May 2003
                      • 2985
                      • Willamina, Oregon 97229

                      #11
                      The FJ's have 4 valves per cylinder. If FJ head would transplant onto an XS11, I'd already be working on it... The XS11 and XJ1100 only being 2 valve per cylinder bikes is one of my pet peeves. Yamaha had the technology to do it but decided not to...

                      Geezer
                      Hi my name is Tony and I'm a bikeoholic.

                      The old gray biker ain't what he used to be.

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                      • Yahman
                        XSive Maximus
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 779
                        • Salem, OR

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Geezer
                        Once I have the lengths, I'll see what I can do...

                        Those 38mm intakes are going to be tough but the later valves are available from CRC anyway.

                        Geezer
                        I can check the lengths of some from a 79. I'll post them later on today. I have to dig them out first.

                        Any other measurements that you want me to take?

                        Larry
                        Inventor of the YICS Eliminator. Want one? Get it here.
                        http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread...399#post183399

                        If you're not riding, you're not living!
                        82 XJ1100
                        80 XS1100G (Project bike)
                        64 Yamaha YA-6
                        77 Suzuki TS-185

                        79 XS1100SF Built this one for a friend.
                        See it here... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBYT4C9_6Ac

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                        • trbig
                          Simply used to just post A LOT!
                          • Nov 2005
                          • 7838
                          • Ada, Oklahoma

                          #13
                          The FJ's have 4 valves per cylinder. If FJ head would transplant onto an XS11, I'd already be working on it...

                          I remember Dan Hodges posted a pic of a 4-valve head that was designed and would work on our bikes. He listed who sold it, but unsure of a price since I remember him saying something about "If money wasn't an option".

                          That being said, the valves on our bikes can move more air/fuel than even the biggest bore possible would need. Up to 1500cc if I remember right.


                          Tod
                          Try your hardest to be the kind of person your dog thinks you are.

                          You can live to be 100, as long as you give up everything that would make you want to live to be 100!

                          Current bikes:
                          '06 Suzuki DR650
                          *'82 XJ1100 with the 1179 kit. "Mad Maxim"
                          '82 XJ1100 Completely stock fixer-upper
                          '82 XJ1100 Bagger fixer-upper
                          '82 XJ1100 Motor/frame and lots of boxes of parts
                          '82 XJ1100 Parts bike
                          '81 XS1100 Special
                          '81 YZ250
                          '80 XS850 Special
                          '80 XR100
                          *Crashed/Totalled, still own

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                          • Yahman
                            XSive Maximus
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 779
                            • Salem, OR

                            #14
                            The 4 valve design keeps the velocities of the air/fuel mixture in a higher range, which keeps the mixture suspended in the air flow. It also helps throttle response.

                            Larry
                            Inventor of the YICS Eliminator. Want one? Get it here.
                            http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread...399#post183399

                            If you're not riding, you're not living!
                            82 XJ1100
                            80 XS1100G (Project bike)
                            64 Yamaha YA-6
                            77 Suzuki TS-185

                            79 XS1100SF Built this one for a friend.
                            See it here... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBYT4C9_6Ac

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                            • Geezer
                              XS-XJ Guru
                              • May 2003
                              • 2985
                              • Willamina, Oregon 97229

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Yahman
                              I can check the lengths of some from a 79. I'll post them later on today. I have to dig them out first.

                              Any other measurements that you want me to take?

                              Larry
                              Nope, just length. I now have the other specs.

                              Geezer
                              Hi my name is Tony and I'm a bikeoholic.

                              The old gray biker ain't what he used to be.

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