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    I have been looking around for a new exhaust system. I like the look of a 4-2 but I'm open to using a 4-1. The only system I have found is a mac and from what I heard around here is that they arent the best. Is there other options for sale anymore.Or does anyone run the mac and like it?I need a little help.
    A nice used system would be cool too if you know where one is

    Thanks
    1980 Midnight Special Its so fast it blew the gold right off
    mikes xs green monster coils, ss brake lines,
    Previous Bike
    1973 XS650

  • #2
    I made a Supertrapp universal can (18.5" long IIRC) fit on a Mac 4-1 header. For now I'm using a piece of flex pipe to make the bend. One day I'll take it off and have a muffler shop make a custom pipe for it. The tunability of the Supertrapp is awesome. There is a Jardine 4-2 on ebay now, fair shape. The Mac cans don't sound too good IMHO.
    Last edited by bikerphil; 10-27-2009, 08:18 PM.
    2H7 (79) owned since '89
    3H3 owned since '06

    "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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    • #3
      Someone posted a thread here a few weeks back that had a link w/ pics of every exhaust option made for the XS.

      Might do a search... might help ya.

      From what I've heard, the big problem w/ the Macs were the single walled tubing... blueing.

      Jardines were a lot nicer / better... but they've ceased production, so unless you stumble upon someone selling some...

      The spaghetti's are cool looking, but the trick is connections, and to the best mufflers.

      Some of the exhausts you had to watch out about clearance, and oil filter access.

      A lot of times, some folks have had to rejet if they go 4 to 1, only to find they lost hp, or the powerband has moved to a different rpm.

      I had a friend who sprung $700 for a rare, exotic system and had it shipped from 1/2 way round the globe... spent weeks fitting it, put it on the dyno... only to find he LOST power. Some systems ya gotta watch out for that... who wants to spend the big $$ and go through all that, to go backwards?
      It looked pretty cool, though...

      Good luck, hope ya score a good system.
      '82 XJ1100J Maxim (has been sold.)

      '79 F "Time Machine"... oh yeah, Baby.... (Sold back to Maximan)

      2011 Kaw Concours 14 ABS

      In the warden's words from Cool Hand Luke;
      "What we have here is a failure to communicate."

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      • #4
        I heard that someone is trying to get a new version of the stock exhaust made from stainless steel.....................
        http://www.myspace.com/i_give_you_power

        1980 XS11 Special - chopped, dropped and OCTY is still installed - NOW IT'S FOR SALE! $1,800 OBO


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        • #5
          Hey, Jeremy...
          Yeah, I think that was Meattooth... new guy here in Tulsa, IIRC.



          Also... Phil's right about the Supertrapps being way cool! Good for HP & tunability. They sound good, too.
          '82 XJ1100J Maxim (has been sold.)

          '79 F "Time Machine"... oh yeah, Baby.... (Sold back to Maximan)

          2011 Kaw Concours 14 ABS

          In the warden's words from Cool Hand Luke;
          "What we have here is a failure to communicate."

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          • #6
            Lg

            The stock pipes on the MNS are "black chrome".
            If you have the originals and the insides are still in good shape then they can be refurbished to look like new.

            If yours are FUBARed then a set of chrome specials can be made to look like a MNS exhaust.

            These pipes are on a SF. They had some dents, scratches and rust. Headers were pitted bad at the top bend. I could not get the chrome to look good enough so this happened




            mro

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            • #7
              i know where a stock set off of an '80 standard are. Shipping would be a tad expensive, but not terrible.

              they are chrome that have been painted with hi-temp paint. the PO didnt do a very good job, but the overall condition is above average. no major issues.

              send me a private message if you are interested.
              '81H (my first XS ) "Grey Ghost"
              Stock Pilots/ 110 mains (to change)
              4:1 Jardine w/ headerwrap
              Windjammer(wiring issues)
              SonyMarine unit for Ipod/Polk Speakers
              New paint/brakes to come!!
              ===============
              '80G FrankenBike (parts bike)
              ===============
              '80G to fix "BlackSunshine"
              Stock Pilots/125 mains
              Pod filters; 4:1 Kerker??
              SS Brake lines w/ new M/C's
              LED Brake Lite
              Needs paint....

              It is better to be thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt....

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              • #8
                True blue

                Originally posted by XJOK2PLAY View Post
                - - - From what I've heard, the big problem w/ the Macs were the single walled tubing... blueing. - - -
                Hi XJ,
                blueing is not a "big problem", it's the way pipes aught to be.
                Think of the blueing on single wall pipes as a zero cost one shot carb tune indicator.
                Purple to blue to dark straw to light straw with the light straw fading out half-way down the first leg shows the carbs are set right.
                Fred Hill, S'toon
                XS11SG with Spirit of America sidecar
                "The Flying Pumpkin"

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                • #9
                  Hey guys thanks for the info. I guess I'll keep an eye out for a good used system. What I have on the bike now is the stock headpipes with universal shorty mufflers welded on. I've thaught about putting on other mufflers that go back further so the noise is not right in my ears but the headpipes are rough. If I cant find a nice used system I'll put the MAC on my christmas list

                  http://i572.photobucket.com/albums/s...bucket/005.jpg
                  I know it has no gold.
                  1980 Midnight Special Its so fast it blew the gold right off
                  mikes xs green monster coils, ss brake lines,
                  Previous Bike
                  1973 XS650

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by furious4 View Post
                    Hey guys thanks for the info. I guess I'll keep an eye out for a good used system. What I have on the bike now is the stock headpipes with universal shorty mufflers welded on. I've thaught about putting on other mufflers that go back further so the noise is not right in my ears but the headpipes are rough. If I cant find a nice used system I'll put the MAC on my christmas list

                    http://i572.photobucket.com/albums/s...bucket/005.jpg
                    I know it has no gold.
                    That's a bad a$$ lookin' bike.

                    I bought this Mac 4-2 used on ebay for $185 including shipping





                    I didn't like the way the mufflers that came with it sounded so I built these from a couple of Cherry Bomb s/s automotive exhaust tips and a couple of 7/8spiral baffles I had laying around.




                    A little louder than I was aiming for but they sound BAAAAD. Like the hounds of hell when I get on it.

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                    • #11
                      That's a bad a$$ lookin' bike
                      Thanks alot heres a pic of when I first got it home.
                      http://i572.photobucket.com/albums/s...t/100_1414.jpg

                      You have yourself a great looking ride and you did a killer job on the exhaust
                      1980 Midnight Special Its so fast it blew the gold right off
                      mikes xs green monster coils, ss brake lines,
                      Previous Bike
                      1973 XS650

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                      • #12
                        If you can find a set of the Jardine 4/2 "spahgetti pipes" in good shape, pay the price and pick them up, you will not be disapointed!!! When I put them on the Fire Dragon I never had to rejet, the power band moved a little but increased in size and the low speed rumble to the high speed snarl has to be heard to be believed!!!!!!!!!!
                        The Old Tamer
                        _________________________
                        1979 XS1100SF (The Fire Dragon)
                        1982 650 Maxim (The Little Dragon)
                        another '82 650 Maxim (Parts Dragon)
                        1981 XS1100SH (The Black Dragon)

                        If there are more than three bolts holding it on there, it is most likely a very important part!

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                        • #13
                          I'm selling a set of Jardine's for a standard on ebay now $100. xs11 sg special parts to follow.....with a mac 4 to 1. I'll be working on the sg in a few days. http://motors.shop.ebay.com/xs11love...1&_from=&_ipg=
                          79 XS11 Special (Lazarus)
                          80 XS850 Special (Old Faithful)
                          80 XS11 Standard sorta stock (Beatrice)
                          79 DT 100

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                          • #14
                            I just ordered a set of Marshall/Laser 4-1's.
                            Haven't heard back from them yet, whether they
                            are in stock or not. Discounted to 381.00 + 25 shipping.
                            We'll see. Got to sound better than the Mac 4-2
                            from the PO. Can't stand those things.

                            http://www.laser-exhausts.com/cgi-bi...3&keywords=all
                            John
                            Now: '78 XS1100E 750 FD Mod (Big Dog)
                            '81 CB900C ( 10 Speed)
                            '78 CB750F ( The F)
                            '76 CB400F ( The Elf)
                            New '82 Honda MB5 Ring Ding
                            Then: '76 CB550K
                            '78 CB750F
                            '84 VF1100S
                            And still Looking!

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                            • #15
                              xs11lover,

                              How would they differ? Standard vs. Special.
                              RIP Whiskers (Shop Boss) 25+yrs

                              "It doesn't hurt until you find out no one is looking"

                              Everything on hold...

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