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  • xs11widowmaker
    XSive
    • Aug 2009
    • 50
    • wadsworth ohio

    #1

    Float height

    I have an 81 xs11s
    It seems like whatever I do it runs rich. It has a 4 into 1 jardine exhaust and pod filters. Right now im running 120 mains and I just put mike's coils on it.
    If im runing 70 it runs great but when I slow down and ride under 3500 it loads up very quickly.
    The carbs are off a midnight special. Maybe im setting the floats for a differant year. I have had the bike for 2 years but im at my wits end.
    I would greatly appreiate any help anyone can give me. Thanks so much in advance
  • tarzan
    XS-XJ Guru
    • Apr 2008
    • 1700
    • Chandler,Az.

    #2
    The floats for that year should be 23mm
    80 SG XS1100
    14 Victory Cross Country

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    • xs11widowmaker
      XSive
      • Aug 2009
      • 50
      • wadsworth ohio

      #3
      Is the midnight carbs off an 81? and is the measurement with the gasket on?

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      • trbig
        Simply used to just post A LOT!
        • Nov 2005
        • 7838
        • Ada, Oklahoma

        #4
        Gasket off.


        Tod
        Try your hardest to be the kind of person your dog thinks you are.

        You can live to be 100, as long as you give up everything that would make you want to live to be 100!

        Current bikes:
        '06 Suzuki DR650
        *'82 XJ1100 with the 1179 kit. "Mad Maxim"
        '82 XJ1100 Completely stock fixer-upper
        '82 XJ1100 Bagger fixer-upper
        '82 XJ1100 Motor/frame and lots of boxes of parts
        '82 XJ1100 Parts bike
        '81 XS1100 Special
        '81 YZ250
        '80 XS850 Special
        '80 XR100
        *Crashed/Totalled, still own

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        • xs11widowmaker
          XSive
          • Aug 2009
          • 50
          • wadsworth ohio

          #5
          im at 23 now. should i go to 24 or try smaller mains?

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          • xs11widowmaker
            XSive
            • Aug 2009
            • 50
            • wadsworth ohio

            #6
            im at 23 with the gasket on so i should be lean not rich.

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            • tarzan
              XS-XJ Guru
              • Apr 2008
              • 1700
              • Chandler,Az.

              #7
              You have had it for two years right?
              Did it run well before?What has changed?
              You should be running lean with that header and stock jets as well as low float levels.
              Are the pods new?Like are they emglo brand?
              80 SG XS1100
              14 Victory Cross Country

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              • xs11widowmaker
                XSive
                • Aug 2009
                • 50
                • wadsworth ohio

                #8
                its ben running rich since i got it. my pod filters are the cheaper ones but i did the instaltion with tubeing as not to restrict air flow. should i try 115 mains or even the 110's?
                thanks for all the help

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                • tarzan
                  XS-XJ Guru
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 1700
                  • Chandler,Az.

                  #9
                  You could try 110' or 115's.
                  I ran my last two specials with 110's straight across.
                  One had a supertrapp exhaust and the other had stock exhaust.They both ran well.The one with the supertrapp might have been a little lean,but it had over 50,000 miles on that combination and never burnt a valve or developed any problems from it.
                  80 SG XS1100
                  14 Victory Cross Country

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                  • xs11widowmaker
                    XSive
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 50
                    • wadsworth ohio

                    #10
                    i think i will try 110's thanks for your help

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                    • bikerphil
                      Master of XSology
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 8629
                      • South Flori-DUH

                      #11
                      Make sure your pilot jets are 42.5 or 45's and Mikuni brand. Off brand pilots have been known to run too rich in the lower RPM range. DAMHIK
                      2H7 (79) owned since '89
                      3H3 owned since '06

                      "If it ain't broke, modify it"

                      โ˜ฎ

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                      • trbig
                        Simply used to just post A LOT!
                        • Nov 2005
                        • 7838
                        • Ada, Oklahoma

                        #12
                        The rpm range where you're having a problem has nothing to do with the main jets. I wouldn't messs with them. From @ 3200-3500 and up is your main jets. Below that, it's your pilot jets.

                        You have the neoprene floats, not the brass ones, correct?

                        Tod
                        Try your hardest to be the kind of person your dog thinks you are.

                        You can live to be 100, as long as you give up everything that would make you want to live to be 100!

                        Current bikes:
                        '06 Suzuki DR650
                        *'82 XJ1100 with the 1179 kit. "Mad Maxim"
                        '82 XJ1100 Completely stock fixer-upper
                        '82 XJ1100 Bagger fixer-upper
                        '82 XJ1100 Motor/frame and lots of boxes of parts
                        '82 XJ1100 Parts bike
                        '81 XS1100 Special
                        '81 YZ250
                        '80 XS850 Special
                        '80 XR100
                        *Crashed/Totalled, still own

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                        • Crazcnuk
                          XS-XJ Guru
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 2980
                          • Hinton, AB, Canada

                          #13
                          Check to make sure the pilots are 42.5, drop the floats to 25mm, and check the needle and needle jet assy VERY carefully to make sure there is no wear on the needle and/or the holes in the needle jet (where the needles ride) are not even slightly oval.

                          A slight amount of wear on the needles will cause it to run rich in the low and mid range.

                          Also, make sure the needles are on the middle setting.
                          Nice day, if it doesn't rain...

                          '05 ST1300
                          '83 502/502 Monte Carlo for sale/trade

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                          • trbig
                            Simply used to just post A LOT!
                            • Nov 2005
                            • 7838
                            • Ada, Oklahoma

                            #14
                            Did the 81 have adjustable needles?

                            Tod
                            Try your hardest to be the kind of person your dog thinks you are.

                            You can live to be 100, as long as you give up everything that would make you want to live to be 100!

                            Current bikes:
                            '06 Suzuki DR650
                            *'82 XJ1100 with the 1179 kit. "Mad Maxim"
                            '82 XJ1100 Completely stock fixer-upper
                            '82 XJ1100 Bagger fixer-upper
                            '82 XJ1100 Motor/frame and lots of boxes of parts
                            '82 XJ1100 Parts bike
                            '81 XS1100 Special
                            '81 YZ250
                            '80 XS850 Special
                            '80 XR100
                            *Crashed/Totalled, still own

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                            • xs11widowmaker
                              XSive
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 50
                              • wadsworth ohio

                              #15
                              thanks for all your help. I just put 110's in it and now it starves for gas at higher speed but the plugs are still black. it does not have brass floats. the needles are not adjustable. i will look at the pilots tomarrow. I am really frustrated. I didnt check the plugs at high speed, i came thru town and rand it normal. Thanks so much for all the help

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