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  • thewiz
    XS-XJ Guru
    • Oct 2006
    • 1115
    • Wilksboro, NC

    #16
    Yup, TC ... I knew that they were only offering the black for the Seca and XJ 750s. My thinking behind emailing them was .... "how hard would it be for them NOT to chrome some of a run of headers" ... and spritz 'em instead.?? Got an auto-response already .....lol .... I think the Jardine would probably be a better bet though frankly ... we'll have to wait and see what comes out of the Geez's inquiry.

    Rob .. I've heard that one before about the Mac 4/2 pipe but not about the 4/1. Interesting though. I am certainly NOT an expert on pipes ... for sure. I'm a huge fan of the factory exhaust actually. I have a very nice Kerker pipe waiting for a home on something of mine in the garage and I wonder how different the header portions of different mfgrs. could really be?? At first glance it looks like my SuperTrapp ... and almost every other 4/1 configuration except the Jardine. How many really different ways or routes are there to get four pipes over the right side of the frame anyway ??? Full of questions, BS and not too much knowledge ain't I?
    80G Mini-bagger
    VM33 Smooth bores, Pods, 4/1 Supertrapp, SS brake lines, fork brace

    Past XS11s

    79F Stone stocker and former daily driver, sold May '10 now converting for N.O. to cafe style
    79SF eventually dismantled for parts
    79F Bought almost new in 80, sold for a house
    79F The Ernie bike sold to a Navy dude summer 08
    79SF Squared-off Special, Vetter/Bates tour pkg., Mikes XS coils, G rear fender and tail light. Sold June 09

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    • 79XS11F
      XS-XJ Super Guru
      • Jul 2006
      • 3563
      • Ottawa, Ont. Canada

      #17
      Originally posted by thewiz
      Yup, TC ... I knew that they were only offering the black for the Seca and XJ 750s. My thinking behind emailing them was .... "how hard would it be for them NOT to chrome some of a run of headers" ... and spritz 'em instead.?? Got an auto-response already .....lol .... I think the Jardine would probably be a better bet though frankly ... we'll have to wait and see what comes out of the Geez's inquiry.

      Rob .. I've heard that one before about the Mac 4/2 pipe but not about the 4/1. Interesting though. I am certainly NOT an expert on pipes ... for sure. I'm a huge fan of the factory exhaust actually. I have a very nice Kerker pipe waiting for a home on something of mine in the garage and I wonder how different the header portions of different mfgrs. could really be?? At first glance it looks like my SuperTrapp ... and almost every other 4/1 configuration except the Jardine. How many really different ways or routes are there to get four pipes over the right side of the frame anyway ??? Full of questions, BS and not too much knowledge ain't I?
      Super Trap, Kerker, V & H and RC racing were on the short list of pipes that were designed to increase HP. There may be a few others but not many.
      Independent research put Kerker at 10 to 15% increase in HP when jetted properly.
      Rob
      KEEP THE RUBBER SIDE DOWN

      1978 XS1100E Modified
      1978 XS500E
      1979 XS1100F Restored
      1980 XS1100 SG
      1981 Suzuki GS1100
      1983 Suzuki GS750S Katana
      1983 Honda CB900 Custom

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      • thewiz
        XS-XJ Guru
        • Oct 2006
        • 1115
        • Wilksboro, NC

        #18
        Very interesting, Rob ..

        I don't doubt that there is something behind those short list picks either. Do you recall where the Jardine fell? I can tell you that my G with the smooth bores, pods and SuperTrapp feels WAY faster than my stock F ... maybe it's just the noise from the pipe and pods ... but I think it is actually snappier.

        One of these days, I'm going to build some BS34s for it, dump the VM33s put back on the factory air box and then I think I'll have a pretty good way to compare performance differences ... at least by seat-of-the-pants testing anyway.
        80G Mini-bagger
        VM33 Smooth bores, Pods, 4/1 Supertrapp, SS brake lines, fork brace

        Past XS11s

        79F Stone stocker and former daily driver, sold May '10 now converting for N.O. to cafe style
        79SF eventually dismantled for parts
        79F Bought almost new in 80, sold for a house
        79F The Ernie bike sold to a Navy dude summer 08
        79SF Squared-off Special, Vetter/Bates tour pkg., Mikes XS coils, G rear fender and tail light. Sold June 09

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        • Mathh
          XSive Maximus
          • Nov 2006
          • 663
          • Beek, Netherlands

          #19
          Originally posted by 65oldsboy
          I saw a thread about these a while ago and saved this to my browser favorites.

          Anybody tried these?
          Marshall Deeptone 4-1 are no good except if there is nothing else available. The only good Marshall deeptones were the 4-2 system which were already no longer available in 1981
          XS1100 3X0 '82 restomod, 2H9 '78 chain drive racer, 3H3 '79 customized.
          MV Agusta Brutale 910R '06.
          Triumph 1200 Speed Trophy '91, Triumph 1200 '93.
          Z1 '73 restomod, Z1A '74 yellow/green, KZ900 A4 '76 green.
          Yamaha MT-09 Tracer '15 grey.
          Kawasaki Z1300 DFI '84 modified, red.

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          • thewiz
            XS-XJ Guru
            • Oct 2006
            • 1115
            • Wilksboro, NC

            #20
            I forgot about these ...

            Campbell X-Pipe ™ -- Patent holder; Monty Campbell invented the first X-Pipe™ exhaust long before NASCAR discovered it. He has developed over 58 different designs including the X-Pipe™ Cross-OverTM (replaces equalizer/cross-over tubes), the X-Pipe™ HeaderTM (replaces 4into1s) and the CPU X-Pipe™ (computerized, dynamically reconfigerable) exhausts. The Campbell X-Pipe™ exhaust has been demonstrated to improve fuel economy (up to 21.4%), increase horsepower (up to 40%), and decrease emissions. It has been used on motorcycles, cars, truck, boats and airplanes.


            they fairly recently showed one for XS11 too ... can't get their website to go the Jap Bikes now ... hmmmm. Don't recall anyone here having one either ???
            80G Mini-bagger
            VM33 Smooth bores, Pods, 4/1 Supertrapp, SS brake lines, fork brace

            Past XS11s

            79F Stone stocker and former daily driver, sold May '10 now converting for N.O. to cafe style
            79SF eventually dismantled for parts
            79F Bought almost new in 80, sold for a house
            79F The Ernie bike sold to a Navy dude summer 08
            79SF Squared-off Special, Vetter/Bates tour pkg., Mikes XS coils, G rear fender and tail light. Sold June 09

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