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  • 750FD stupid question...

    I saw the tutorial on the 750/850FD swap "for that elusive 6th gear" and I assumed that a tranny swap came before the tutorial.

    How many XS750/850 parts do I need and what years will fit my 81-H?
    Is it still a five speed in the end with a different gear ratio?

  • #2
    I've been told that any year 750/850 final drive will work. All you need is the final drive. You will not get a 6th gear, but your RPM at crusing speed will be substanially lower. It will be like having a 6th gear without actually having a 6th gear.
    Ray

    '79 XS1100 Special - An XS Odyssey <<-- Click it, you know you want to!
    '07 FJR1300

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    • #3
      at 4,000 rpms , i'm doing 60 on my first speedometer and 62 on my 2nd. what rpms would I get with the 750FD?

      do I want a cheap dirty one for $50
      http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SHAFT...ayphotohosting

      or a pretty clean one for $120?
      http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Final...4506.m20.l1116
      Last edited by pinkelephant; 07-24-2009, 11:46 PM.

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      • #4
        do I want a cheap dirty one for $50
        http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SHAFT...ayphotohosting
        http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/78-Ya...4506.m20.l1116

        or a pretty clean one for $120?
        http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Final...4506.m20.l1116
        http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/YAMAH...4506.m20.l1116

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        • #5
          Unless you have your heart on one of those options you may want to have a look at this.
          http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/80-Ya...A1%7C72%3A1171

          Shipping is less and it doesn't look like there is very much interest. I paid more for mine. There are quite a few up there right now. Hard to say how much competition you will have.

          Good luck.

          Rodger
          RIP Whiskers (Shop Boss) 25+yrs

          "It doesn't hurt until you find out no one is looking"

          Everything on hold...

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          • #6
            Go for the cheap one. You can clean it up for a LOT less than the difference.
            Make sure you READ THROUGH the mod BEFORE you decide to go ahead with it. I have the mod on my old daily ride, and will be putting it on the new daily ride. My Midnight Special and the '78 project will NOT be getting the mod. I'm looking for the longer time before gas on my "commute" bike, but NOT on the MNS, as it's all about looks, not long ride. My project will not need the mod, as it is NOT going to be how far I can go, but how FAST.
            Ray Matteis
            KE6NHG
            XS1100 E '78 (winter project)
            XS1100 SF Bob Jones worked on it!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by latexeses View Post
              Unless you have your heart on one of those options you may want to have a look at this.
              http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/80-Ya...A1%7C72%3A1171

              Shipping is less and it doesn't look like there is very much interest. I paid more for mine. There are quite a few up there right now. Hard to say how much competition you will have.

              Good luck.

              Rodger


              good call. I'm on it

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              • #8
                Originally posted by DiverRay View Post
                Go for the cheap one. You can clean it up for a LOT less than the difference.
                Make sure you READ THROUGH the mod BEFORE you decide to go ahead with it. I have the mod on my old daily ride, and will be putting it on the new daily ride. My Midnight Special and the '78 project will NOT be getting the mod. I'm looking for the longer time before gas on my "commute" bike, but NOT on the MNS, as it's all about looks, not long ride. My project will not need the mod, as it is NOT going to be how far I can go, but how FAST.


                I understand my "0 to 60" time would be hurt, but I assumed the 750fd would give me a smoother 85-100mph ride

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                • #9
                  At 70 mph, the final drive will drop your RPMs by @ 800. After the first day or two, you'll never notice the difference in taking off. I race guys off the line with stock final drives, and I think the only thing that makes me slower than a couple of them is having double the body weight they do! (Skinny-azzed punks...) But I regularly beat some of them.


                  Tod
                  Try your hardest to be the kind of person your dog thinks you are.

                  You can live to be 100, as long as you give up everything that would make you want to live to be 100!

                  Current bikes:
                  '06 Suzuki DR650
                  *'82 XJ1100 with the 1179 kit. "Mad Maxim"
                  '82 XJ1100 Completely stock fixer-upper
                  '82 XJ1100 Bagger fixer-upper
                  '82 XJ1100 Motor/frame and lots of boxes of parts
                  '82 XJ1100 Parts bike
                  '81 XS1100 Special
                  '81 YZ250
                  '80 XS850 Special
                  '80 XR100
                  *Crashed/Totalled, still own

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                  • #10
                    I think I got mine off ebay for $25 shipped. You just have to keep your eyes open and be ready for the one that got away from every one else's eye.

                    I use the "save this search" function, and use as many different terms as I can get search hits with. Then when something new comes on the auction page, I get an email about it.

                    Mine was in OK condition cosmetically, but was silver and my bike had the black FD from the factory. I bead blasted the outside and used engine paint and engine clearcoat to make it look close to original.

                    Also, if you are in to street fighting, the FD swap moves your shift point up about 15mph on the 1-2 shift, which lets you stay on the power longer, and saves time shifting....
                    Ich habe dich nicht gefragt.

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                    • #11
                      I just got the 750FD for $22.21. hehe

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                      • #12
                        That is a sweet deal. Mine was a donation, cost me $15 in shipping fees.
                        Life is what happens while your planning everything else!

                        When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt.

                        81 XS1100 Special - Humpty Dumpty
                        80 XS1100 Special - Project Resurrection


                        Previously owned
                        93 GSX600F
                        80 XS1100 Special - Ruby
                        81 XS1100 Special
                        81 CB750 C
                        80 CB750 C
                        78 XS750

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                        • #13
                          Hey, you owe me one...

                          Good job. Congrats.

                          Oh wait, you didn't buy the one I posted. That sold for about $$4.00 and shipping?.. or was it? Wassup?

                          Good job anyway.

                          Rodger
                          Last edited by latexeses; 07-27-2009, 02:03 AM.
                          RIP Whiskers (Shop Boss) 25+yrs

                          "It doesn't hurt until you find out no one is looking"

                          Everything on hold...

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by latexeses View Post
                            Hey, you owe me one...

                            Good job. Congrats.

                            Oh wait, you didn't buy the one I posted. That sold for about $$4.00 and shipping?.. or was it? Wassup?

                            Good job anyway.

                            Rodger
                            thats the one you posted. thanks.
                            the rest of the cost was shipping.

                            The tutorial
                            http://www.xs11.com/xs11-info/tech-t...-6th-gear.html
                            is out of date and needs an update. the places to get the "rocker arm bushing for a 346 Fairbanks Morse engine" no longer carry them and Cody(Maximan) said to just use the copper sleeve. do I want to go with copper?

                            I've also seen it suggested to not remove the pinion.
                            Is this what I do?:
                            Remove the pinion retainer nut then skip to knocking out the washers then cleaning and filling the oil holes?

                            then in the end, tighten the retainer nut till it drags and back off 1/8 turn as suggested by Mr Schweer. (I have an 850FD).

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                            • #15
                              ahh, yeah..

                              I also am looking into this..
                              and have the same confusion..

                              Could someone edit/update the FD swap to make a bit more sense..

                              PLEASE

                              Thanks in advance..
                              Webs
                              1979 XS1100SF Special.78 E motor/carbs, Jardine 4-2 exhaust, XS Green coils, Corbin seat, S.S. Brake lines, Hard cases, Heated grips.

                              2012 FJR1300 Gen 2. Heli bar risers, R-gaza crash bars, mccruise cruise control.

                              (2)2008 WR250R. Because kids outgrew others.

                              2007 Suzuki V-Strom 1000. (Just added 2024) pre-crashed.

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