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  • TDodge7
    XStremely XSive
    • May 2009
    • 246

    #1

    found a new way to remove broken pilot screw tips

    well I spent a good 3 or 4 hours lastnight trying to remove a broken pilot screw tip from carb #4 , tried the sewing needles , tried the push pin trick , even tried making my own tools . none of it was working , this thing was in there good . so I tried something else , I stuck the rack of carbs in the freezer for a few hours , as soon as I took them out I tried the push pin trick again and the tip popped out right away with almost no resistance .freezing the carbs shrinks the tips just enough that you can easily knock them out , just passing it on incase anyone else comes across a stubborn one .
    Last edited by TDodge7; 06-12-2009, 12:30 AM.
  • skids
    XS-XJ Super Guru
    • Jul 2002
    • 5049
    • Florissant, CO, USA

    #2
    GOOD idea!
    Skids (Sid Hansen)

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    • skids
      XS-XJ Super Guru
      • Jul 2002
      • 5049
      • Florissant, CO, USA

      #3
      With that idea in mind, I wonder if pushing dry ice against the bottom could cool it down even more?
      Skids (Sid Hansen)

      Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

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      • CatatonicBug
        Master of XSology
        • Oct 2008
        • 6117
        • Clinton, UT

        #4
        Great idea! Works the same way for candle holders too - put the little cups in the freezer for a bit, and the wax lets go with just a tap.
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        • TDodge7
          XStremely XSive
          • May 2009
          • 246

          #5
          Dry ice could work , the grocery stores around here don't sell it anymore . if I remember right the carbs were only in the freezer for 3 or 4 hours , just enough to get frosty like a beer mug . I wish i'd tried the freezer before I spent 4 hours screaming at the carbs while wielding sewing needles and pliars ha ha .
          Last edited by TDodge7; 06-12-2009, 11:04 AM.

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          • 62xs
            Xsive
            • Apr 2009
            • 42
            • ohio

            #6
            about a year ago I ended up drilling one out. wish I'd have though if that.

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            • Ivan
              XS-XJ Guru
              • Jul 2008
              • 2524
              • Hutchinson KS

              #7
              Only problem I can see with it is the aftertaste in your soda from the ice.
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              • latexeses
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                • Jun 2008
                • 1491
                • California

                #8
                Early Times hides the aftertaste...
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                • trbig
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                  • Nov 2005
                  • 7838
                  • Ada, Oklahoma

                  #9
                  Russ79 called me this morning asking what size drill bit would it take to drill out the pilot screws.. apparently all 4 broke off in the carbs he was working on. I told him about this freezer thing I'd read on the forum and he tried it. All four tips popped right out.

                  I was also thinking.. that can of compressed air you use on your computer.. if you held it upside down and sprayed the liquid that comes out straight onto that jet.. that would freeze the area in a hurry also.


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                  • 81xsproject
                    XS-XJ Super Guru
                    • Nov 2004
                    • 3185
                    • Fortuna, CA

                    #10
                    That's funny, Tod. I was thinking of the home liquid nitrogen wart freezing things.
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                    • TDodge7
                      XStremely XSive
                      • May 2009
                      • 246

                      #11
                      Originally posted by trbig
                      Russ79 called me this morning asking what size drill bit would it take to drill out the pilot screws.. apparently all 4 broke off in the carbs he was working on. I told him about this freezer thing I'd read on the forum and he tried it. All four tips popped right out.

                      I was also thinking.. that can of compressed air you use on your computer.. if you held it upside down and sprayed the liquid that comes out straight onto that jet.. that would freeze the area in a hurry also.


                      Tod
                      cool , then i guess this is my first tech tip .

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                      • tadtl1
                        XSive
                        • Mar 2010
                        • 98
                        • Auburn Mi

                        #12
                        Freeze out

                        Hi, There is a product called freeze out available at hardware stores in a spray can. That should work also. I bought a can then discovered that my tips werent actually broke off, just advanced too far,, perhaps by the factory. I found that the mix screws only had one quarter turn out from seated, not the one and a quarter that is supposed. Of course, these screws could potentially have vibrated their way towards being seated.
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                        • WMarshy
                          XS-XJ Guru
                          • Apr 2009
                          • 2402
                          • Mexico NY

                          #13
                          Originally posted by trbig
                          Russ79 called me this morning asking what size drill bit would it take to drill out the pilot screws.. apparently all 4 broke off in the carbs he was working on. I told him about this freezer thing I'd read on the forum and he tried it. All four tips popped right out.

                          I was also thinking.. that can of compressed air you use on your computer.. if you held it upside down and sprayed the liquid that comes out straight onto that jet.. that would freeze the area in a hurry also.


                          Tod
                          I know when butane evaporates it leaves behind a freezing cold spot like dry ice almost. You can squirt out a little puddle of it and keep it localized, gotta watch not to ignite it though. All your other suggestions are probably cheaper and safer than butane though. But who's concerned about safety anyways, after all we are riding motorcycles right?
                          Last edited by WMarshy; 04-11-2010, 09:29 PM.
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