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  • GARTHXS
    XS-XJ Guru
    • Nov 2007
    • 1631
    • Seattle

    #1

    Dead bike!

    well I fired up the 78 and went to the video store no problems , I left on the way home come to a stop sign and bike dies no start no neutral light nothing, so luckily I am about 5 blocks from home and its mostly slight downhill and I push it home , battery is fine and so are the fuses(tc box) and the main as well, pull the headlight and check the main switch , red wire 12v brown nothing so Pulled the iggy and cleaned it up this is what the circuit looked like

    and the little contact thingy

    after cleaning


    I am going to re install and see if that did the trick , any advice would be appreciated
    91 kwaka kz1000p
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  • randy
    XS-XJ Guru
    • Dec 2003
    • 4521

    #2
    You can lap that switch plate on fine sandpaper with a little water. Don't take it down too far That will make it like new.

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    • RUSH
      XStremely XSive
      • Feb 2005
      • 214
      • Lake Stevens, WA

      #3
      ??
      Where did you find that part? Is the guts to the kill switch? or the keyed ignition switch?
      Last edited by RUSH; 05-04-2009, 06:57 PM.

      First bike was an: 1978 XS1100
      Second bike is an FJR1300.
      Now I'm restoring a '79 XS1100.

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      • GARTHXS
        XS-XJ Guru
        • Nov 2007
        • 1631
        • Seattle

        #4
        I cleaned it

        I did clean it and used a rubber eraser on te contacts and they shine like new , so I installed and the friigin thing still doesnt work guess i will pm andreas for a new iggy , can Just pull the guts out of my old one and replace them so my key will work??
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        • Cobia
          XS-XJ Guru
          • Jul 2007
          • 1587
          • Palm Beach County, Fl

          #5
          re: Dead bike

          Hey Garth,
          Did you check to see if the main fuse was OK? The inline one behind the battery?
          Last edited by Cobia; 05-04-2009, 07:39 PM.
          1980G Standard, Restored
          Kerker 4 - 1
          850 Rear End Mod
          2-21 Flashing LED Arrays on either side of license plate for Brake Light Assist, 1100 Lumen Cree Aux Lights,
          Progressive springs, Showa rear shocks
          Automatic CCT
          1980GH Special, Restored
          Stock Exhaust, New Handlebars, 1" Spacer in Fork Springs, Automatic CCT, Showa Rear Shocks
          '82 XJ1100 (Sold)
          Automatic CCT, RC Engineering 4 X 1 Exhaust, K&N Pods, #50 Pilot Jets, YICS Eliminator. Sorely missed.

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          • GARTHXS
            XS-XJ Guru
            • Nov 2007
            • 1631
            • Seattle

            #6
            main

            main fuse is good I am getting power to the red on the iggy switch connector but nothing on the brown wire
            91 kwaka kz1000p
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            • DGXSER
              Doctor of XSology(Deceased)
              • Nov 2008
              • 12001
              • Cincinnati, Ohio

              #7
              Garth, I think what I read is that you verified you have voltage to the switch (red wire 12V) just nothing after it,(brown wire dead) Correct?
              Life is what happens while your planning everything else!

              When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt.

              81 XS1100 Special - Humpty Dumpty
              80 XS1100 Special - Project Resurrection


              Previously owned
              93 GSX600F
              80 XS1100 Special - Ruby
              81 XS1100 Special
              81 CB750 C
              80 CB750 C
              78 XS750

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              • Cobia
                XS-XJ Guru
                • Jul 2007
                • 1587
                • Palm Beach County, Fl

                #8
                How about the wires in the connectors? Inside the headlamp bucket as well as the iggy ones.
                Another thought comes to mind... could the tip over switch have gone bad? Can you override it? Just a wild guess considering the unusual circumstance. Looks as if something just shorted out to me.
                1980G Standard, Restored
                Kerker 4 - 1
                850 Rear End Mod
                2-21 Flashing LED Arrays on either side of license plate for Brake Light Assist, 1100 Lumen Cree Aux Lights,
                Progressive springs, Showa rear shocks
                Automatic CCT
                1980GH Special, Restored
                Stock Exhaust, New Handlebars, 1" Spacer in Fork Springs, Automatic CCT, Showa Rear Shocks
                '82 XJ1100 (Sold)
                Automatic CCT, RC Engineering 4 X 1 Exhaust, K&N Pods, #50 Pilot Jets, YICS Eliminator. Sorely missed.

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                • GARTHXS
                  XS-XJ Guru
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 1631
                  • Seattle

                  #9
                  yes

                  Originally posted by DGXSER
                  Garth, I think what I read is that you verified you have voltage to the switch (red wire 12V) just nothing after it,(brown wire dead) Correct?
                  That is right BTW this bike has a harness from a 80g and the iggy is too
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                  • GARTHXS
                    XS-XJ Guru
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 1631
                    • Seattle

                    #10
                    connectors

                    All the connecters are in good shape with no smoked wires in the bucket
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                    • oldyam80sg
                      XS-XJ Guru
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 2041
                      • Hackettstown , New Jersey

                      #11
                      Its been awhile since i had mine apart but did you check the brown wire at the solder joint?Did it come off?
                      1980 XS1100 SG
                      Inline fuel filters
                      New wires in old coils-outer spark plugs
                      160 mph speedometer mod
                      Kerker Exhaust
                      xschop K & N air filter setup
                      Dynojet Recalibration kit
                      1999 Kawasaki ZRX1100
                      1997 Jeep Cherokee 4.5"lift installed

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                      • The Lorax
                        XS-XJ Guru
                        • Jun 2005
                        • 1048
                        • Riverside, OH

                        #12
                        I would occasionally have a similar issue, I would be riding along, minding my own business and all of a sudden everything is dead, no lights, no fire no brimstone, nothing. found it to be in this set of three wires behind the headlight bucket, can't remember what colors they were anymore. Got so that when she died, I didn't even stop the bike, just reached around the right side of the bars, grabbed a hand full of wires and gave them a good shake and keep on riding, I have since fixed the problem, but it took me near 2 seasons to get around to it. so check the wires again, what's it gonna hurt right . have a nice day and ride safe
                        I am the Lorax, I speak for the Trees

                        '80 XS1100 SG (It's Evil, Wicked, Mean & Nasty)

                        '79 XS1100 F R (IL Barrachino)

                        '00 Suzuki Intruder 1400 (La Soccola)

                        '77 KZ400s (La Putana)

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                        • GARTHXS
                          XS-XJ Guru
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 1631
                          • Seattle

                          #13
                          solder

                          It appears to be intact. What a pain , it all looks like it should work but it doesn't
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                          • Ivan
                            XS-XJ Guru
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 2524
                            • Hutchinson KS

                            #14
                            I have had the ignition switch apart, albeit a while back, but I do seem to recall that it was possible to get some of the parts out of alignment. You might want to take it apart again and double check.
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                            • XJOK2PLAY
                              XS-XJ Guru
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 2099
                              • Skiatook, Ok.

                              #15
                              Hey Garth...

                              As an electrician by trade, I offer my 2cents...
                              If you have a DVOM handy, and the switch is on the bench, place the DVOM in continuity mode and place one lead on the hot terminal and the other on the brown, (swithleg terminal), with the key in the run position, you should show continuity if the switch is good. Just a thought. Hope it helps ya.
                              Bob
                              '82 XJ1100J Maxim (has been sold.)

                              '79 F "Time Machine"... oh yeah, Baby.... (Sold back to Maximan)

                              2011 Kaw Concours 14 ABS

                              In the warden's words from Cool Hand Luke;
                              "What we have here is a failure to communicate."

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