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    so im tuning my 78e and it seems to bog a little bit from about 1100 rpm to maybe just under 2k if you know what I have been up to on this bike than you already know I have 85 fj1100 carbs , mikes xs pods and bassani superbike 4/1, do you think its the lack of advance , no velocity stacks or what ?? power comes on at 2k and doesnt stop pullin until I get chicken. will it work if attach the vacuum advance to the second carb boot with an inline restrictor??
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  • #2
    Wow... That's a lot of change to take into consideration. I know nothing about the other parts, so I can only say that if you were still running the stock setup, I would look at the pilot jets/circuit. Sounds like it's not getting enough fuel till the main jets kick in at the higher RPMs.
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    • #3
      yeah

      Originally posted by CatatonicBug View Post
      Wow... That's a lot of change to take into consideration. I know nothing about the other parts, so I can only say that if you were still running the stock setup, I would look at the pilot jets/circuit. Sounds like it's not getting enough fuel till the main jets kick in at the higher RPMs.
      the only thing constant is change and mine is due to lack of stock parts available oh yeah and money too plus it looks and sounds cooler
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      • #4
        Garth, I know what you mean. Has the bike been bogging since you put on the new carbs back, when, around the time we made the casino run or is it more recent?


        Regards,

        Scott
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        2004 ST1300A: No name... yet
        1982 XJ1100J: "Baby" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
        1980 XS1100G: "Columbo" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
        1979 XS1100SF: "Bush" W.I.P.
        1979 XS1100F: parts
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        • #5
          maybe

          Well I have tuned them it a bit more and it is probably just a little bit more tuning needed, also I am really thinking of velocity stacks and I think part of it is the f/d mod and the taller gears
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          • #6
            Garth,
            Im running the air stacks with uni pod filters,
            makes a nice difference up top but wont make any difference to your off idle stumble, play around with the mixtures a bit more, you could also try stretching the slide springs a quarter inch to slow the slide down a whisker.
            I also dont think the advance would contribute to it either.
            pete


            new owner of
            08 gen2 hayabusa


            former owner
            1981 xs1100 RH (aus) (5N5)
            zrx carbs
            18mm float height
            145 main jets
            38 pilots
            slide needle shimmed .5mm washer
            fitted with v/stax and uni pod filters

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            • #7
              Originally posted by garthxs View Post
              Well I have tuned them it a bit more and it is probably just a little bit more tuning needed, also I am really thinking of velocity stacks and I think part of it is the f/d mod and the taller gears
              Have you checked the new carburetors to see what size jets are in them? The Yamaha site says the '85 XJ1100N has BS36 carburetors with #37.5 pilot jets. That looks a tad lean in the low speed department.

              Lakesreach has a PDF with carburetor specs.


              Regards,

              Scott
              -- Scott
              _____

              2004 ST1300A: No name... yet
              1982 XJ1100J: "Baby" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
              1980 XS1100G: "Columbo" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
              1979 XS1100SF: "Bush" W.I.P.
              1979 XS1100F: parts
              2018 Heritage Softail Classic 117 FLHCS SE: "Nanuk" It's DEAD, it's not just resting. It is an EX cycle.

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              • #8
                Garth,
                It sounds as if you're experiencing the same thing I was on my XJ. Here's the thread of how I solved it:
                http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22129

                Hope it helps.
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                • #9
                  pilots

                  I have 120 mains and 42.5 mains I believe and I do have adjustablity with the mix screws
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                  • #10
                    Garth - soft and boggy on the bottom is often a sign of float height being too high (in their installed orientation). Don't know a lot about the FJ carbs, but this is common for CV carbs. Might try lowering them 1-2mm - doesn't cost anything. Also, I've found a colortune an indispensible tool in determining jetting. If you can't adjust through the entire range of color (yellow, bunson blue, white blue) it's generally an indication that the jets aren't right. Here's some useful info DGXSER just turned me on to - CV Carb Tuning
                    Last edited by dbeardslee; 04-30-2009, 09:30 AM.
                    I think I have a loose screw behind the handlebars.

                    '79 XS11 Standard, Jardine 4/1, Dyna DC1-1 Coils, 145 mains, 45 pilots, plastic floats - 25.7mm, XV920 fuel valves, inline fuel filters, speed bleeders, Mikes XS pods, spade-type fuse block, fork brace, progressive fork springs/shocks, manual petcocks, 750 FD, Venture cam chain tensioner, SS brake lines

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                    • #11
                      mix

                      I think I am almost there with the pilot mix just need to do a couple of chops and see where I stand , put in a tankful of gas and added some seafoam havent done that in like six months so I figured I was due and she seems to run pretty good but maybe I am a perfectionist (haha) also I think with pods 4/1 and the 750 mod it doesnt pull as hard from down low as a stocker
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