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    well looks like i am going to have to do the 2nd gear fix, it went bangity bang clunk clunk and would not go in 2nd gear, just took it down the drive way, any way i am going to read every thing on here i can and when i get ready to tackel it I will more than likely have some questions.
    1979 xs1100 f
    142 main, 45 pilot, Jardeen crosover 4/2, no air box
    floats @ 25.7

    1979 xs1100 F
    1978 gl 1000 goldwing
    1981 gl 1100 goldwing
    !986 venture royale 1300

    Just an ol long haired country boy, come to town to spend some egg money
    when ya get bucked off, get back on

  • #2
    It is not as bad as it sounds to do, although it can be freaky digging that seep into one if you never have before like me. Plenty of great help here and lots of folks that have done it so answers are typically pretty quick in coming.

    Gears will typically run you $100 per gear for the new ones, and the new ones are backcut just as the tech tip explains to do to them. You might spend $40 on dremel bits or more if you need to buy the tool, I borrowed one.
    Life is what happens while your planning everything else!

    When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt.

    81 XS1100 Special - Humpty Dumpty
    80 XS1100 Special - Project Resurrection


    Previously owned
    93 GSX600F
    80 XS1100 Special - Ruby
    81 XS1100 Special
    81 CB750 C
    80 CB750 C
    78 XS750

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    • #3
      If you have about 1/10 a mile, try a "quick" shift from first, second and third, without letting out the clutch in second. Then if you have the room, go to fourth and fifth. You CAN run in fifth at 30 MPH without hurting the engine. This will let you know how well it's shifting in the other gears. If it's just second, back cut or replace the gears. If you have problems in other gears, you may want to pm Andreas about a used transmission. Bad or hard shifting in more than one or two gears CAN be a bent shift fork...
      Ray Matteis
      KE6NHG
      XS1100 E '78 (winter project)
      XS1100 SF Bob Jones worked on it!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by DiverRay View Post
        If you have about 1/10 a mile, try a "quick" shift from first, second and third, without letting out the clutch in second. Then if you have the room, go to fourth and fifth. You CAN run in fifth at 30 MPH without hurting the engine. This will let you know how well it's shifting in the other gears. If it's just second, back cut or replace the gears. If you have problems in other gears, you may want to pm Andreas about a used transmission. Bad or hard shifting in more than one or two gears CAN be a bent shift fork...
        Thanks ray, I will do that as soon as i get the brakes back on it, may go ahead and do that tomorow, the brakes were stuck on it when i got it, this thing sat for about 15 years, this may be the reason it sat for so long, they did not know how or want to spend the money for a shop to fix it, the good side is that if it was not broke i would not have got a good deal on it, right, lol.
        1979 xs1100 f
        142 main, 45 pilot, Jardeen crosover 4/2, no air box
        floats @ 25.7

        1979 xs1100 F
        1978 gl 1000 goldwing
        1981 gl 1100 goldwing
        !986 venture royale 1300

        Just an ol long haired country boy, come to town to spend some egg money
        when ya get bucked off, get back on

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        • #5
          Originally posted by DGXSER View Post
          It is not as bad as it sounds to do, although it can be freaky digging that seep into one if you never have before like me. Plenty of great help here and lots of folks that have done it so answers are typically pretty quick in coming.

          Gears will typically run you $100 per gear for the new ones, and the new ones are backcut just as the tech tip explains to do to them. You might spend $40 on dremel bits or more if you need to buy the tool, I borrowed one.
          Yea dgxser I allready have a dremel tool and some grinding wheels and if i wear them out I will go to harbor fright and get some more, think I will try what ray said to do first, take it out and test all the outher gears.
          1979 xs1100 f
          142 main, 45 pilot, Jardeen crosover 4/2, no air box
          floats @ 25.7

          1979 xs1100 F
          1978 gl 1000 goldwing
          1981 gl 1100 goldwing
          !986 venture royale 1300

          Just an ol long haired country boy, come to town to spend some egg money
          when ya get bucked off, get back on

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          • #6
            Yeah, definitely make sure you can STOP before you wory about trying to GO! I had to do the fix on 3rd gear too, though that seems to be a rare thing.
            1980 XS850SG - Sold
            1981 XS1100LH Midnight Special (Sold) - purchased 9/29/08
            Fully Vetterized and Dynojet Kit added, Heated Grips, Truck-Lite LED headlight, Accel Coils, Irridium plugs, TKAT Fork Brace, XS850LH Final Drive & Black SS Brake lines from Chacal.
            Here's my web page devoted to my bike! XS/XJ User's Manuals there, and the XJ1100 Service Manual and both XS1100 Service manuals (free download!).

            Whether you think you can, or you think you cannot - You're right.
            -H. Ford

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            • #7
              Originally posted by CatatonicBug View Post
              Yeah, definitely make sure you can STOP before you wory about trying to GO! I had to do the fix on 3rd gear too, though that seems to be a rare thing.
              I went right into 3rd gear when i heard the noise in 2nd gear, but did not get to wind it out in the drive way, so gona do the full check when i get the brakes back on.
              Last edited by cowboybob998; 04-26-2009, 10:09 PM.
              1979 xs1100 f
              142 main, 45 pilot, Jardeen crosover 4/2, no air box
              floats @ 25.7

              1979 xs1100 F
              1978 gl 1000 goldwing
              1981 gl 1100 goldwing
              !986 venture royale 1300

              Just an ol long haired country boy, come to town to spend some egg money
              when ya get bucked off, get back on

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              • #8
                With all due respect to DiverRay (and that is ALOT), I will say that getting used gears from Andreas is only half the issue. The repair that even Mother Yammie figured out, is to have the gears back cut like is shown in the tech tip. Putting used ones in, IMHO, i just prolonging the repair.

                Now if you wanted to get the used gears from Andreas and then dremel them before install, that would make sense to me. And if it were me I would dremel back cut all of the gears, or at least 1st and 4th and 2nd and 5th while you have them out, I did for mine and no regrets. It is not that hard of a repair, but not one you want to repeat if you can avoid it.
                Life is what happens while your planning everything else!

                When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt.

                81 XS1100 Special - Humpty Dumpty
                80 XS1100 Special - Project Resurrection


                Previously owned
                93 GSX600F
                80 XS1100 Special - Ruby
                81 XS1100 Special
                81 CB750 C
                80 CB750 C
                78 XS750

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by DGXSER View Post
                  With all due respect to DiverRay (and that is ALOT), I will say that getting used gears from Andreas is only half the issue. The repair that even Mother Yammie figured out, is to have the gears back cut like is shown in the tech tip. Putting used ones in, IMHO, i just prolonging the repair.

                  Now if you wanted to get the used gears from Andreas and then dremel them before install, that would make sense to me. And if it were me I would dremel back cut all of the gears, or at least 1st and 4th and 2nd and 5th while you have them out, I did for mine and no regrets. It is not that hard of a repair, but not one you want to repeat if you can avoid it.
                  I think what he was saying if the gears that I have are shot and need new ones there is someone to get them from, yes no way would i do all that work with out under cuting the gears first, thanks to yall for the information about how to fix these things, this site is realy good, I belong to a goldwing site because i have two old goldwings allso and it is good but not near as good as this place, seams to be a bunch of good people here willing to help one another.
                  1979 xs1100 f
                  142 main, 45 pilot, Jardeen crosover 4/2, no air box
                  floats @ 25.7

                  1979 xs1100 F
                  1978 gl 1000 goldwing
                  1981 gl 1100 goldwing
                  !986 venture royale 1300

                  Just an ol long haired country boy, come to town to spend some egg money
                  when ya get bucked off, get back on

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                  • #10
                    Hey cowboybob,
                    There are quite a few of us here in Kansas City. If you need any help with the bike I would gladly assist and I know some of the others would as well. Also, Russ79 has about any part you would need for one of these bikes and is also local. Andreas is also a very good source for parts.
                    Harry

                    The voices in my head are giving me the silent treatment.

                    '79 Standard
                    '82 XJ1100
                    '84 FJ1100


                    Acta Non Verba

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                    • #11
                      My main concern was NOT the gears, but the shift forks.... I think we ALL know the gears need the mod, but if the PO had tried to "keep it running" he may have fubared the forks. They are about $80 to $110 each, and that was two years ago! Being aluminum, they bend and score if they are mistreated.
                      Ray Matteis
                      KE6NHG
                      XS1100 E '78 (winter project)
                      XS1100 SF Bob Jones worked on it!

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                      • #12
                        ah hah - I gotcha now Ray. Learning all the time. Yep, I suspect the forks may have been tortured as well from the description.
                        Life is what happens while your planning everything else!

                        When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt.

                        81 XS1100 Special - Humpty Dumpty
                        80 XS1100 Special - Project Resurrection


                        Previously owned
                        93 GSX600F
                        80 XS1100 Special - Ruby
                        81 XS1100 Special
                        81 CB750 C
                        80 CB750 C
                        78 XS750

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                        • #13
                          I can tell you from personal experience that breaking a shift fork is NOT fun at all. Thankfully I was just starting out from a stop light when mine broke. it's a very disconcerting feeling to go from 15 ish miles per hour to SCREECHING halt in a split second. let's just say it was inconvenient at best. be sure to check your shift forks, the alternative can be dicey. have a nice day and ride safe
                          I am the Lorax, I speak for the Trees

                          '80 XS1100 SG (It's Evil, Wicked, Mean & Nasty)

                          '79 XS1100 F R (IL Barrachino)

                          '00 Suzuki Intruder 1400 (La Soccola)

                          '77 KZ400s (La Putana)

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                          • #14
                            Transmission and shift forks for 80 bucks

                            XS1100 Transmission
                            Tim Ripley - Gaithersburg, MD
                            1981 XS1100 Special "Spoiled Rotten" Just sold - currently bikeless!!
                            23mm float height
                            120 main jets
                            42.5 pilot jets
                            drilled stock airbox with K&N
                            Jardine 4 to 1 Exhaust
                            spade fusebox
                            1st and 2nd gear fix

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by XSPastor View Post
                              Thanks pastor, iam tempted to buy it but I dont know if I need it all, I just went out and started the bike and ran trough the gears, it would go in second just seting there, some times it would not go in gear but it seams like it is shifting like it should just acks like from what you all tell me is the dogs are rounded off, i dont know for sure, you tell me.
                              1979 xs1100 f
                              142 main, 45 pilot, Jardeen crosover 4/2, no air box
                              floats @ 25.7

                              1979 xs1100 F
                              1978 gl 1000 goldwing
                              1981 gl 1100 goldwing
                              !986 venture royale 1300

                              Just an ol long haired country boy, come to town to spend some egg money
                              when ya get bucked off, get back on

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