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[Bud Manley]

OK I found the link and read through it.You guys are nuts theres no way that can work. But, i'll try it out. just sounds a little strange to me steering towards the area you don't want to go. Fortunatly I'm still learning and actually suck enough that any type of training will probabley take, know what I mean?

http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread...ountersteering

[strom]

On a straight and empty piece of road try pushing the handlebars left, then right. You will notice the bike wanting to lean the other way.

LP

[Snow]

Wouldn't that also be leaing in the direction you want to go?

[Mike Hart]

Check out these web-based countersteering links in the Links forum.

Especially check out Keith Code's "No BS Bike" (BS=BodySteering), it will convince you.

It's the ONLY way to steer. Body can help, but without countersteering, there is no steering to speak of. People do it unconsciously, when they lean left, they pull the right bar! Better to push the left bar to go left.

When racers lean off the side, they are reducing lean angle by changing the center of gravity, but the steering input is on the bars.

[Bud Manley]

Can't wait to get my pipes remounted and try the countersteering thing out. I know exactley **** about riding motorcycles and after reading all the thread I see your point. Motorcycle racers don't really move at all from what I've seen and they take incedibly sharp turns and S curves. I was actually thinking about that when riding for the first time in the parking lot. How the hell do they do that?

[Jeff]

Yup...... learning the concept of counter steering was one of the best lessons I ever learned about riding a motorcycle. When I first started focussing on using true countersteer to contol the bike.... it was like the bike suddenly came alive. I found that I could make the bike maneuver with much more precision and speed. I learned that I could turn tighter at higher speeds with much more stability. I never thought a big heavy bike like the XS1100 could be so nimble.

I first learned about counter steering when I switched from smaller Yamaha dirt bikes which could be easily manhandled to the Yamaha XT500... a rather large 4 cycle enduro. I got myself into trouble many times when I found that I could not simply manhandle a bike that large and heavy. It sometimes seemed to have a mind of its own and wanted to go where it wanted to. When you combined that with the completely different torque and power curve of a 4 cycle as compared to a 2 cycle..... I knew I had to find a better way.