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    Got the bike out to ride in to work this morning. Pulled the bike out of the garage, gave it 1/2 choke, and it started right up. Pulled on the sweatshirt and wind breaker and grabbed the helmet. By this time the RPM's have gone up and it's time the push the choke in. I turn around and the #1 cylinder pipe is glowing bright orange right at the bend. It is the color that you look for in oil harding steel right before you drop it in the oil bath. I shut the bike down and tried not to think too much about it till I got home. I haven't pulled the plugs yet, but my first guess is a carb problem, the second is a bad header gasket. The only thing I've changed is the fuel lines. I had the two lines off the petcock going into a tee and then going to the pair of carbs opposite the petcock. I now have only one line off the petcock to the carbs. I have understood that the front petcock nipple is for the vacuum to open the petcock to let fuel into the carbs. Was I right the first time with the lines routed to tee? One other thing. I ran a fuel line between the two vacuum connections thinking that would prevent a fuel leak. Maybe that was a BAD idea and one petcock is closing off the other and the other bank of carbs fuel supply. I'd like to get it right so my winter projects for the bike don't include an engine rebuild Any and all ideas are appreciated. Thanks in advance.
    1979XS1100SF
    K&N's and drilled airbox
    Jardine 4in1
    Dunlop Elite 3's
    JBM slide diaphragms
    142.5 main jets
    45 pilot jets
    T.C.'s fusebox & SOFA
    750/850 FD mod.
    XV 920 Needle Mod.
    Mike's XS plastic floats set at 26mm
    Venture Cam Chain Tensioner

  • #2
    Re: What have I done????

    [QUOTE][ I have understood that the front petcock nipple is for the vacuum

    This applies to Standard petcocks only. You have a Special?
    2H7 (79) owned since '89
    3H3 owned since '06

    "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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    • #3
      Yes, at least the tank is. I am starting to find some XJ parts the deeper I dig. LOL
      1979XS1100SF
      K&N's and drilled airbox
      Jardine 4in1
      Dunlop Elite 3's
      JBM slide diaphragms
      142.5 main jets
      45 pilot jets
      T.C.'s fusebox & SOFA
      750/850 FD mod.
      XV 920 Needle Mod.
      Mike's XS plastic floats set at 26mm
      Venture Cam Chain Tensioner

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      • #4
        petcocks

        With Special petcocks, cap off the forward ones when not using the octopus. The Standard petcocks are a totally different animal and won't bolt up to a special tank. Special petcocks have no vacuum line.
        2H7 (79) owned since '89
        3H3 owned since '06

        "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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        • #5
          That's what I have. The bike was a basket case when I got it. Now the owner is becoming one
          1979XS1100SF
          K&N's and drilled airbox
          Jardine 4in1
          Dunlop Elite 3's
          JBM slide diaphragms
          142.5 main jets
          45 pilot jets
          T.C.'s fusebox & SOFA
          750/850 FD mod.
          XV 920 Needle Mod.
          Mike's XS plastic floats set at 26mm
          Venture Cam Chain Tensioner

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          • #6
            The Special petcocks that is.
            1979XS1100SF
            K&N's and drilled airbox
            Jardine 4in1
            Dunlop Elite 3's
            JBM slide diaphragms
            142.5 main jets
            45 pilot jets
            T.C.'s fusebox & SOFA
            750/850 FD mod.
            XV 920 Needle Mod.
            Mike's XS plastic floats set at 26mm
            Venture Cam Chain Tensioner

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            • #7
              fuel lines

              Okay, after capping off the front fuel outlets, run line from left petcock to right carbs 3+4. Run line from right petcock to left carbs 1+2. should be good to go. Cap all 4 carb boot vac. ports. I recommend using inline fuel filters but thats up to you. HTH
              2H7 (79) owned since '89
              3H3 owned since '06

              "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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              • #8
                Ok. Inlet ports are blocked, got inline filters, righthand petcock goes to the left pair of carbs and the left goes to the right pair of carbs. Disconnect the jumper I put between the vacuum connections on the petcocks and plug them so they are seperate. Start it up and hope like heck I haven't wrecked the top end.
                1979XS1100SF
                K&N's and drilled airbox
                Jardine 4in1
                Dunlop Elite 3's
                JBM slide diaphragms
                142.5 main jets
                45 pilot jets
                T.C.'s fusebox & SOFA
                750/850 FD mod.
                XV 920 Needle Mod.
                Mike's XS plastic floats set at 26mm
                Venture Cam Chain Tensioner

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                • #9
                  front petcocks outlets

                  Just to clarify better... the Special petcocks use no vacuum. The front outlets are for the prime position when using the octopus. If octopus has been eliminated, there is no need for the prime position anymore. On the fuel selector, off, on, and reserve will work normally. Turn petcocks to off position for parking the bike overnight. Also might want to check your oil for possible fuel contamination.
                  2H7 (79) owned since '89
                  3H3 owned since '06

                  "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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                  • #10
                    Thank you

                    Just went out and disconnected the jumper I had between the prime outlets and plugged them off with a couple of 5/16 SHCS. Started it up on 1/2 choke and let it warm up. As soon as the rev's rose the header pipe started glowing. I pushed the choke in and the glow went away. I guess I haven't noticed it before and all it took was it happening at 5:20am with it getting dark and I finally noticed it. My next question is has anybody else noticed this? Do I have a problem in my choke circuit? Things haven't been going very well for me and mine lately, and getting out on the bike, even if it's to work and home, has been helpful. In perspective they aren't serious issues compared to other peoples diffculties, so I can't complain. When they pile on it gets hard to take and a ride sure helps!
                    1979XS1100SF
                    K&N's and drilled airbox
                    Jardine 4in1
                    Dunlop Elite 3's
                    JBM slide diaphragms
                    142.5 main jets
                    45 pilot jets
                    T.C.'s fusebox & SOFA
                    750/850 FD mod.
                    XV 920 Needle Mod.
                    Mike's XS plastic floats set at 26mm
                    Venture Cam Chain Tensioner

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                    • #11
                      I'm starting mine up at 4:30 a.m tomorrow to head to work. I'll check to see if I can see mine glowing too. Since it will be 40 degrees outside it may not be able to get hot enough to glow, but I'll keep an eye out and see what mine does.
                      1980 XS 1100 Special
                      1983 Honda Shadow 500 (profit project)
                      1986 Honda Shadow 500 (wife's)

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                      • #12
                        Outside Temp

                        It was 53 degrees this morning. I think the header pipes make their own weather. I will be interested to hear what you find out.
                        1979XS1100SF
                        K&N's and drilled airbox
                        Jardine 4in1
                        Dunlop Elite 3's
                        JBM slide diaphragms
                        142.5 main jets
                        45 pilot jets
                        T.C.'s fusebox & SOFA
                        750/850 FD mod.
                        XV 920 Needle Mod.
                        Mike's XS plastic floats set at 26mm
                        Venture Cam Chain Tensioner

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                        • #13
                          I notice that you're using a Jardine pipe. I am going to assume that this is just s single walled pipe. If this is true, then I would imagine it would glow in low light conditions. It would have to get that hot to make the chrome blue on the MAC and JArdines like it does. Imagine how hot it gets when it is bluing/yellowing a double walled stock pipe! Check your plugs though to make sure you aren't running lean. You shouldn't have one getting hotter than the rest.

                          Tod
                          Try your hardest to be the kind of person your dog thinks you are.

                          You can live to be 100, as long as you give up everything that would make you want to live to be 100!

                          Current bikes:
                          '06 Suzuki DR650
                          *'82 XJ1100 with the 1179 kit. "Mad Maxim"
                          '82 XJ1100 Completely stock fixer-upper
                          '82 XJ1100 Bagger fixer-upper
                          '82 XJ1100 Motor/frame and lots of boxes of parts
                          '82 XJ1100 Parts bike
                          '81 XS1100 Special
                          '81 YZ250
                          '80 XS850 Special
                          '80 XR100
                          *Crashed/Totalled, still own

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                          • #14
                            My friend played around with his carbs and idle screws on his XS400.The pipes glowed bright orange and then the bike died.I wouldn't run it like that until you find out what is happening.My SG has never got that hot!And i rode it to work today because the Jeep was getting a few things done to it.Weather was perfect.
                            1980 XS1100 SG
                            Inline fuel filters
                            New wires in old coils-outer spark plugs
                            160 mph speedometer mod
                            Kerker Exhaust
                            xschop K & N air filter setup
                            Dynojet Recalibration kit
                            1999 Kawasaki ZRX1100
                            1997 Jeep Cherokee 4.5"lift installed

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                            • #15
                              Could be

                              Maybe the synch isn't right and #1 is working harder than the rest.
                              You can't stay young forever, but you can be immature for the rest of your life...

                              '78E "Pathfinder" Show bike...
                              Lovingly restored by Dave Delzell
                              Drilled airbox
                              Tkat fork brace
                              Hardly mufflers
                              late model carbs
                              Newer style fuses
                              Oil pressure guage
                              Custom security system
                              Stainless braid brake lines

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