What kind of tires is everyone using and what kind of driving do you do? I'm trying to find some better handling tires, so who better to ask than people with the same bike! The Dunlop 491 is just not cutting it for me, I'm getting some rear wheel spin during acceleration, still has plenty of tread left. I just want stickier tires and I am finding out that I am limited with the rear 16" wheel. Any suggestions???
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1980 XS11 Special - chopped, dropped and OCTY is still installed - NOW IT'S FOR SALE! $1,800 OBO
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"Don't mess with TEXAS! It's not nice to pick on retards."
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Pirelli Tour-am 140/90-16 77H. Sticks to the road like sh&t to a blanket. I love this tire, corners great. I have not done much rain riding with it though so I could get a suprise yet. The tire barely clears my 79 SF driveshaft but it has never rubbed yet. Unfortunatly I do not remember the mileage when i put it on so I dont know how many I have out of it so far.2-79 XS1100 SF
2-78 XS1100 E Best bike Ever
80 XS 1100 SG Big bore kit but not fully running yet.
Couple of more parts bikes of which 2 more will live!
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Forgot to mention that the last tire I had on the 79SF was an AVON Roadrunner. Same size. Very impressive for sticking to the road and ultimate launches. Wore out quite quickly though and was pricey 6000km's if I remember properly. A fine tire if your bank account can handle the strain2-79 XS1100 SF
2-78 XS1100 E Best bike Ever
80 XS 1100 SG Big bore kit but not fully running yet.
Couple of more parts bikes of which 2 more will live!
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bridgestone spitfires as well quite good..."a good man knows his limitations" dirty harry
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85 Yamaha FJ 1100
79 yamaha xs1100f
03 honda cbr 600 f4
91 yamaha fzr 600
84 yamaha fj 1100
82 yamaha seca 750
87 yamaha fazer
86 yamaha maxim x
82 yamaha vision
78 yamaha rd 400
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Dunlop K491's on the touring E.
Dunlop 501's on the sportier LG.
I haven't spun a tire yet. Either I launch like a wuss or I have the clutch feel right...... or both.Pat Kelly
<p-lkelly@sbcglobal.net>
1978 XS1100E (The Force)
1980 XS1100LG (The Dark Side)
2007 Dodge Ram 2500 quad-cab long-bed (Wifes ride)
1999 Suburban (The Ship)
1994 Dodge Spirit (Son #1)
1968 F100 (Valentine)
"No one is totally useless. They can always be used as a bad example"
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I ride naked (no laughs please) and like to cut the turns alot on those small country roads we have down here in south Louisiana. I am running Metzler Lasertec front and rear. Front 110-90-V19 and rear 130-90-V16. I like 'em.Mike Giroir
79 XS-1100 Special
Once you un-can a can of worms, the only way to re-can them is with a bigger can.
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Metzler Marathon tires front & rear. Don't know anything about them except that they're round and seem to have good grip when it's dry out. Wet pavement can get a little tricky sometimes.
I haven't spun a tire yet. Either I launch like a wuss or I have the clutch feel right...... or both.I know this, because Tyler knows this.
1980 SG
3J6 003509
Kerker 4-1 (sans baffles)
Fuse Block Upgrade
Mike's XS Green Coils
Pods w/Homemade Velocity Stacks
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There is tire threads aplenty to keep you busy for hours. If not concerned with mileage, the Avon Vipers and Metzler Lazertechs are good choices for "Sticky", although the Venoms dished out on the edges badly on me with good tread left.
Some would call my riding style... "Fun". Others would call it.. ummm.. something else entirely! lol. The Dunlop Elite 3 has been the best tire I have ever run. If you get into an area of road with a layer of just tar on top.. just about any tire is going to break loose. I tried a couple months ago in Texas on a visit to spin this back tire at a stop light and couldn't do it. I have felt the back end slide out a little after turning from a stop by the house here a couple times, but it was out on the edges of the tire leaned... could have been dirt/oil/etc on the tire though since it hadn't been on edge for a while and I ride through a bit of wet grass in the morning. What I do know though, is it has grabbed the best in the corners of any tire I have run. I know he can't speak here, but I believe Maximan has seen it corner better/faster than any bike this age was designed to do. I wasn't pushing it, but I rode @ 170 miles in the rain a couple nights ago and it never slipped a bit there.. even at 70+ with a semi passing and hitting you with a wall of water.
A tire that lasts any time with my riding style is pretty impressive. I have almost 8k on this tire with a LOT of tread left. Combine that with a VERY sure-footed feel.... I'm sold on them and can't say enough about them... obviously! lol
TodTry your hardest to be the kind of person your dog thinks you are.
You can live to be 100, as long as you give up everything that would make you want to live to be 100!
Current bikes:
'06 Suzuki DR650
*'82 XJ1100 with the 1179 kit. "Mad Maxim"
'82 XJ1100 Completely stock fixer-upper
'82 XJ1100 Bagger fixer-upper
'82 XJ1100 Motor/frame and lots of boxes of parts
'82 XJ1100 Parts bike
'81 XS1100 Special
'81 YZ250
'80 XS850 Special
'80 XR100
*Crashed/Totalled, still own
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I switched up to E-3s on the last go round and will put them on the other bike when they are needed. The E-3s hold well, have shown good tread life ad the front tire runs through things like re surfaced asphalt and metal bridge grating without tracking in the grooves. It's a much better tire than the 501s and the E-2s."If A equals success, then the formula is: A = X + Y + Z. X is work. Y is play. Z is keep your mouth shut." - Albert Einstein
"Illegitimi non carborundum"-Joseph W. "Vinegar Joe" Stilwell
1980 LG
1981 LH
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Originally posted by trbig
There is tire threads aplenty to keep you busy for hours.
Next question, what air pressure should I use front and rear? Currently I have 30 psi front and 35 psi rear. I am an aggressive rider (acceleration wise not so much top speed) and only weigh about 145 lbs.http://www.myspace.com/i_give_you_power
1980 XS11 Special - chopped, dropped and OCTY is still installed - NOW IT'S FOR SALE! $1,800 OBO
Famous Myspace quote:
"Don't mess with TEXAS! It's not nice to pick on retards."
It's funny because I am from TEXAS!
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Hi Blue,
Kenda Challenger up front (whatcha got that's cheap & holds air?) TwinTire on rear because it's flat-sectioned and wears like iron and a Vredestein car tire on the Honda Civic rim the sidecar uses.
I'd go to an Avon sidecar triple duty up front for it's flat-section tread but it's speed rating is poor and it won't run tubeless.Fred Hill, S'toon
XS11SG with Spirit of America sidecar
"The Flying Pumpkin"
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dunlop touring elite 3
Hey trbig ,
I have about the same mileage on my set of elite 3s and I like 'em too. BUT, I am starting to get some cupping on both the front and rear tires that I am not too happy about. I had been running the yamaha recommended tire pressure but have since upped to front to 30-32 psi.
Have you or anyone else had cupping problems with the elite 3?
I do ride in a more "sport" style myself and found this bit of info from the Dunlop web site to be pretty interesting -
How To Avoid Cupping -
You may not be able to entirely avoid cupping. Tire cupping or irregular wear is a somewhat common occurrence on all vehicles. On a four-wheel vehicle, you are advised to rotate your tires periodically to even out wear. Unfortunately, you do not have this luxury with a motorcycle because front and rear tires, unlike those on a four-wheel vehicle, are not interchangeable.
However, there are steps that can be taken to minimize cupping and uneven wear on a motorcycle:
Maintain your motorcycle and particularly your front forks and suspension.
Avoid hard braking whenever possible. Braking causes the tire to grab and wear in one direction. When braking is applied to the front tire, the load transfer over-flexes the tire and increases the tendency for cupping and uneven wear.
Maintain your tire pressures. Underinflation or overinflation in motorcycle tires are significant causes of cupping and uneven wear, particularly in association with hard braking and/or trailer use.
Some of today's tires feature tread patterns and constructions that are less prone to cupping than the ribbed tires of old. The Dunlop 491, D401 and D402 touring and sport touring tires are good examples.
Tire companies can, and are, helping to minimize cupping and uneven wear but you, the rider, must do your part. Follow the aforementioned guidelines. How Much Run-in Should I Give a New Tire? When new tires are fitted, they should not be subjected to maximum power or hard cornering until a reasonable run-in distance of approximately 100 miles has been achieved.
This is necessary for a number of reasons. Replacements for worn tires with different patterns and construction will not react the same. Also, a new tire is stiffer than an old tire. The new tire has a rounder tread profile, different contact patch and "lean-over edge" than the worn profile of an old tire. The new tire will also not react the same in combination with its remaining tire.
Carrying out the required run-in will allow you to become accustomed to the "feel" of the new tires and tire combinations, so you are better able to achieve optimum road grip for use in high speed, high acceleration and handling situations.
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Maybe I hosed my tires by braking too hard?
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I seem to use more air in my tires than most. Between me and riding two up a lot, or at least carrying enough crap that the bike thinks I am.. I usually keep my rear at 40psi and the front at @ 35. I have @ 12psi in my front forks also with my dampener adjuster knob on 4 for the front and back. Probably a lot stiffer setup than most would prefer.
This being said... I did the same setup with the Avon tire and it cupped. I haven't run an Elite 3 on front, but I have no cupping issues "YET" with the Dunlop on the rear. As stated though, I am usually a lot more aggressive on my accel than I am on the brakes... but I still go through a set of pads about as often as tires???
TodTry your hardest to be the kind of person your dog thinks you are.
You can live to be 100, as long as you give up everything that would make you want to live to be 100!
Current bikes:
'06 Suzuki DR650
*'82 XJ1100 with the 1179 kit. "Mad Maxim"
'82 XJ1100 Completely stock fixer-upper
'82 XJ1100 Bagger fixer-upper
'82 XJ1100 Motor/frame and lots of boxes of parts
'82 XJ1100 Parts bike
'81 XS1100 Special
'81 YZ250
'80 XS850 Special
'80 XR100
*Crashed/Totalled, still own
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