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  • olebiker
    XSive Maximus
    • Aug 2007
    • 692
    • Kingston ON

    #16
    Originally posted by corey
    79 Special, Jardine pipes, EMCO pod filters, rejetted... its been so long I don't even remember the jet sizes!!! Either way, I get about 32-34 MPG. Close but no cigar!!


    I should note that my mileage went up since I fixed my gas filler seal. Evaporation is a mother, ya know?
    How did you fix it? I didn't know you could buy a seal (mine leaks).
    http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1241/1480921818_241eade448_s.jpg

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    • Derwat
      New
      • Jul 2007
      • 8
      • Hinton, AB

      #17
      Stock 79SF, aftermarket mufflers (not performance)

      36mpg at sea level, 32-34mpg normally (imperial gallon)
      XS1100SF Special

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      • corey
        XStremely XSive
        • Mar 2005
        • 208
        • Dexter, MO

        #18
        The new seal came from MikesXS. I don't remember the part number, but if you do a search for "gas tank seal" and my name it should come up, and fairly recently too.

        The avatar: its a picture from the single "Stinkfist" by Tool. Enough said.
        Corey J. Bennett
        '79 XS1100SF

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        • Dennyz
          XS-XJ Guru
          • Jul 2002
          • 1151
          • Olympia, Washington

          #19
          Since I have re-thought my jetting setup for fuel economy, I am now getting 38-39mpg. AND, no noticeable loss of power. Maybe I can only go 120mph now, instead of 125. I can live with that (literally). My driving style has not change. I like to go fast and hit the corners hard.

          My 'F' has a 4:1, can muffler, K&N filter with a drilled out air box, 140.0 main jets, 45.0 pilots and 135 miles on the odometer.

          The intake and exhaust mods cause a low RPM lean out. By running larger pilots to address this, the XS motor retains its low end power. Up above 2500 RPM, at cruising speed, the motor does not need that kind of richness.

          This is further supported by the number of owners that are running custom exhaust and intake on stock jetting. And are completely satisfied with their performance.

          I started with 145.0 mains and 45.0 pilots. The bike ran strong, but only got around 35mpg. I reduced the mains to 142.2s and the pilots back to 42.5s. I lost the low end power I like and my fuel economy did not improve. I put the 45.0 pilots back in and the low end power returned. Fuel economy showed no noticeable improvement. Reducing the mains to 140.0s brought my fuel economy up to 38-39mpg. I new I was on the right track.

          I am ready to return my mains to 137.5 (stock) and leave the pilots at 45.0. But, I just did the XS850 F/D conversion and want to test my mileage before I make any more changes.

          My recommendation is to bump the pilots up and leave the main stock.
          DZ
          Vyger, 'F'
          "The Special", 'SF'
          '08 FJR1300

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          • egleaves
            XStremely XSive
            • May 2007
            • 441
            • Sacramento

            #20
            Dennyz, I like your approach to the jet size conundrum. I haven't gone so far as to change my jets yet, but when I do I am going to remember this post and re-jet accordingly.

            A little trial and error is likely to only way to find the perfect jet size since everybody differs in their bike configuration and/or riding preference.
            I know this, because Tyler knows this.

            1980 SG
            3J6 003509
            Kerker 4-1 (sans baffles)
            Fuse Block Upgrade
            Mike's XS Green Coils
            Pods w/Homemade Velocity Stacks

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            • pete_s
              XSive
              • Apr 2008
              • 98
              • NoBranford CT

              #21
              Milage Mods

              Running two up with a Vetter fairing on a XS11 I am getting 45 to 46 MPG with varied riding.

              Stock intake and exhast I believe are helping allong with XS11 final drive from Ebay for $36.

              Carb jetting is all stock and the needle is centered and suggest the the low mpg bikes may have the needles raised (e clip lowered on the needle) and will cause it to run rich(fat) with carbon on the plugs and exhaust.

              The Needle and Needle jet control all fuel flow from off idle to full throttle when the main kicks in, limits the flow Syncronizing the carbs may be another thing to be carefull with and will affect MPG. I spend some extra time doing it

              Connecticut has 10% ethanol so I didn't think I could get 45MPG but my numbers don't lie
              1967 Bultaco Metralla 250
              RD125
              1973 CT3 175
              78 XS1100E
              80 XS850SG

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              • Paintman
                XStremely XSive
                • Mar 2008
                • 312
                • rapid City SD

                #22
                MPG

                Stock engine stock ex good tuneup with full vetter Fairing and bags with 750 Mod i turned out an avg of 42.3 mpg i am very happy.


                John
                79 XS1100SF 750 FD,Galfer Brake lines,ebc brake pads,Cross Drilled Rotors,TKat fork brace,bead blasted wheels repainted and polished
                80 XS1100 S Project gonna be a hot rod
                06 CBR1000RR sold!!!!!
                2000 Concours
                84 Kawi KLR600
                79 Yam XT500 Ouch it kicks back
                79 XR250
                Why is it that the smallest part can fly to the farthest part of the shop?
                John

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                • Gyrogearloose
                  Truly XSive
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 162
                  • Coupeville, WA

                  #23
                  Good mileage.

                  Last week on a trip to Winthrop, Wa. from Coupeville, Wa. I got 43 -44 mpg. That's a 360 mile trip. My 80' SG performed well amongst the Harleys and Wings'. The only mod I know of is a 4-1 exaust. Stock intake and jetting. I'm scared to touch it for the needed cam chain replacement. Ha.
                  Geno

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                  • Pat Kelly
                    XS-XJ Super Guru
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 3046
                    • Golden Valley, AZ

                    #24
                    It's sad when my son's car (1993 Ford Escort) gets better MPG than my bike. Drove the car to OR and got 37 MPG on the way there (70 - 75 MPH). On the way back kept the speed to 60 - 65 MPH and got 43 MPG.
                    Pat Kelly
                    <p-lkelly@sbcglobal.net>

                    1978 XS1100E (The Force)
                    1980 XS1100LG (The Dark Side)
                    2007 Dodge Ram 2500 quad-cab long-bed (Wifes ride)
                    1999 Suburban (The Ship)
                    1994 Dodge Spirit (Son #1)
                    1968 F100 (Valentine)

                    "No one is totally useless. They can always be used as a bad example"

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                    • Crazcnuk
                      XS-XJ Guru
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 2980
                      • Hinton, AB, Canada

                      #25
                      I doubt his escort is getting more than your bike, according to your numbers.

                      I drove a '96 Escort for 10 years and it averaged 36-38mpg on Imperial gallons.

                      And I did everything I could to get better mileage out of it, as I put 212,000kms on it in that time.
                      Nice day, if it doesn't rain...

                      '05 ST1300
                      '83 502/502 Monte Carlo for sale/trade

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                      • Pat Kelly
                        XS-XJ Super Guru
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 3046
                        • Golden Valley, AZ

                        #26
                        My bike(s) get 34 MPG. Escort wins this time .
                        I still prefer the bike.
                        Now my Volvo gets from 6.5 to 8 MPG. I once got a bit over 10 but then picked-up 42,000 lbs of wine and the avg dropped to 7MPG.
                        Pat Kelly
                        <p-lkelly@sbcglobal.net>

                        1978 XS1100E (The Force)
                        1980 XS1100LG (The Dark Side)
                        2007 Dodge Ram 2500 quad-cab long-bed (Wifes ride)
                        1999 Suburban (The Ship)
                        1994 Dodge Spirit (Son #1)
                        1968 F100 (Valentine)

                        "No one is totally useless. They can always be used as a bad example"

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                        • olebiker
                          XSive Maximus
                          • Aug 2007
                          • 692
                          • Kingston ON

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Pat Kelly
                          My bike(s) get 34 MPG. Escort wins this time .
                          I still prefer the bike.
                          Now my Volvo gets from 6.5 to 8 MPG. I once got a bit over 10 but then picked-up 42,000 lbs of wine and the avg dropped to 7MPG.
                          Pat that sounds like a very large party
                          http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1241/1480921818_241eade448_s.jpg

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                          • snowdog51
                            XStremely XSive
                            • May 2006
                            • 348
                            • st. paul ,mn

                            #28
                            the steez

                            so mikuni makes a pump that works with trottle when you twist the trottle it gives a squirt so jetting can be lean just like a car with a carb . i'm going to look in to this see if it can be had it could help with trottle
                            response.
                            bill
                            bill hane

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                            • xschop
                              XS-XJ Guru
                              • Feb 2006
                              • 1794
                              • oklahoma city

                              #29
                              Anybody else trying Acetone?

                              1oz. per 5 gal. I just started a tank and will post results. The bike starts up alot easier I noticed right off the bat and she's got more pep....stay tuned
                              MDRNF
                              79F.....Not Stock
                              80G......Not Stock Either....In the works

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                              • nezzer
                                Administrator
                                • Feb 2006
                                • 142
                                • Denver, CO

                                #30
                                Completely stock '80 Special. I get 39 miles to the gallon. The bike is incapable of getting anything but 39 mpg. I drive lower speeds through the country, high speed highway, standstill rush hour.... doesnt matter. I still get 39 mpg. Sometimes I even drive like a a-hole just trying to see if I can make it budge off 39. No luck so far.
                                '80 XS Special
                                JonathanKnez@hotmail.com

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