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  • Crazcnuk
    XS-XJ Guru
    • Aug 2006
    • 2980
    • Hinton, AB, Canada

    #136
    Went another 200kms, yesterday, avg'd 29.4mpg (US).

    Buddy was in a bit of a hurry, we were 75+ most of the time.
    Nice day, if it doesn't rain...

    '05 ST1300
    '83 502/502 Monte Carlo for sale/trade

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    • Crazcnuk
      XS-XJ Guru
      • Aug 2006
      • 2980
      • Hinton, AB, Canada

      #137
      I've ordered some 42.5 pilot jets. When they come will see how they affect the system.

      My stock exhaust should be on by then.
      Nice day, if it doesn't rain...

      '05 ST1300
      '83 502/502 Monte Carlo for sale/trade

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      • egsols
        XS-XJ Guru
        • Jan 2006
        • 1090
        • Barrie, Ontario, Canada

        #138
        Use any oil on that last run?
        Ernie
        79XS1100SF (no longer naked, now a bagger)
        (Improving with age, the bike that is)

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        • skids
          XS-XJ Super Guru
          • Jul 2002
          • 5048
          • Florissant, CO, USA

          #139
          Actually, that is about normall for that speed. There is quite a bit of difference between the 42.5 and 45 pilots in the low end rpms (all else being equal to a stock carb set-up). I also found that oil usage at high speed can be higher than normal and I once used a quart between fill-ups with the dreaded synthetic Mobil-1; however, oil usage is now completely acceptable with dinosaur blend. I would recommend that you get that sparkplug hole rethreaded if you haven't already. It is really pretty simple.

          Originally posted by Crazcnuk
          Went another 200kms, yesterday, avg'd 29.4mpg (US).

          Buddy was in a bit of a hurry, we were 75+ most of the time.
          Skids (Sid Hansen)

          Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

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          • Crazcnuk
            XS-XJ Guru
            • Aug 2006
            • 2980
            • Hinton, AB, Canada

            #140
            It's not a matter of just rethreading the hole. I already did that, unfortunately I put in the wrong heli-coil!


            I have to get the old heli-coil out then put the right one in....
            Nice day, if it doesn't rain...

            '05 ST1300
            '83 502/502 Monte Carlo for sale/trade

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            • skids
              XS-XJ Super Guru
              • Jul 2002
              • 5048
              • Florissant, CO, USA

              #141
              Oh crap! By wrong, I suppose you mean it fits a different spark plug thread. I would live with it as long as it sparks and does not leak hot gases. I'll bet every spark plug will have different heat ranges. I am sure you know all of that by now...

              Originally posted by Crazcnuk
              It's not a matter of just rethreading the hole. I already did that, unfortunately I put in the wrong heli-coil!


              I have to get the old heli-coil out then put the right one in....
              Skids (Sid Hansen)

              Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

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              • Crazcnuk
                XS-XJ Guru
                • Aug 2006
                • 2980
                • Hinton, AB, Canada

                #142
                Right now I have a BP7ES stuck in there.

                The other 3 have Bosch Platinum.

                The coil in there is a 3/4" trhread, rather than the usual 14mm.

                I understand some mfgs still make 3/4" thread plugs, but I would have to find what the xover plug is.

                BTW I used ~1 liter of oil last 300kms.
                Last edited by Crazcnuk; 08-15-2008, 08:16 PM.
                Nice day, if it doesn't rain...

                '05 ST1300
                '83 502/502 Monte Carlo for sale/trade

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                • wgfrie
                  New
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 5
                  • Saskatoon, Saskatchewan

                  #143
                  I was just reading through the posts and your problem is similar to my own. My 78E was stored for a dozen years and when I revived it it never had the same old power. I had replaced the old rotted mufflers with slip ons and no crossover. last week I had a muffler shop install a crossover just behind the center stand and it really woke the bike up. More power, about 38 MPG and smother operation. I would recommend anyone with slip ons add a cross over.
                  '78 XS1100E
                  '76 550 Super Sport
                  '79 GL500 not running
                  '08 Road King
                  '55 Chev 4 Door and HT not running
                  'some other stuff with wheels

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                  • skids
                    XS-XJ Super Guru
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 5048
                    • Florissant, CO, USA

                    #144
                    I have a set of stock pipes that I cut off and because of the diameter of the slip-ons, I also lost the crosover. I would really like to see the work that the shop did!
                    Skids (Sid Hansen)

                    Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

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                    • Crazcnuk
                      XS-XJ Guru
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 2980
                      • Hinton, AB, Canada

                      #145
                      I have a stock exhaust coming, with crossover.


                      I hope it will help too.
                      Nice day, if it doesn't rain...

                      '05 ST1300
                      '83 502/502 Monte Carlo for sale/trade

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                      • wgfrie
                        New
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 5
                        • Saskatoon, Saskatchewan

                        #146
                        The crossover is just plain aluminized pipe and will probably rust with age. I was lucky and had about 2" of good pipe on each headed after they joined. The crossover is about 8" long on each side and built in 2 pieces for ease of installation and future removal. The guy has done this before and made all the cuts for the crossover by hand with his torch and then welded them to the 8" extension.

                        My 78 had a definite stumble at about 3200 RPM and near 7000. all that is gone now and more power everywhere. My exhaust had a crack to it before and now is a much deeper rumble. All is good. I'll try and get some pictures when I return from my trip.
                        '78 XS1100E
                        '76 550 Super Sport
                        '79 GL500 not running
                        '08 Road King
                        '55 Chev 4 Door and HT not running
                        'some other stuff with wheels

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                        • Crazcnuk
                          XS-XJ Guru
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 2980
                          • Hinton, AB, Canada

                          #147
                          Took another gas run today.

                          Ran 35mpg (US), (42.1mpg imp), and about 1/2 liter of oil in 175kms (107miles)

                          This was staying at ~70-75mph as much as possible, about 90deg F outside.
                          Nice day, if it doesn't rain...

                          '05 ST1300
                          '83 502/502 Monte Carlo for sale/trade

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                          • egsols
                            XS-XJ Guru
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 1090
                            • Barrie, Ontario, Canada

                            #148
                            Took another gas run today. Ran 35mpg (US), (42.1mpg imp), and about 1/2 liter of oil in 175kms (107miles)
                            This was staying at ~70-75mph as much as possible, about 90deg F outside
                            Seems to be getting better the more you ride, and the warmer it is out?

                            I don't get out as much as I want, but for mine I know she needs to be runned to stay running.
                            Ernie
                            79XS1100SF (no longer naked, now a bagger)
                            (Improving with age, the bike that is)

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                            • Crazcnuk
                              XS-XJ Guru
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 2980
                              • Hinton, AB, Canada

                              #149
                              I use mine daily. I've hit 35mpg(US) twice, both times running between 110-115kph, or 42-4500rpm steady.

                              If I go up to 4500-5000rpm, the mileage drops 3-4mpg.

                              Still waiting for the 42.5 pilot jets to show up. Want to see if they make a difference.
                              Nice day, if it doesn't rain...

                              '05 ST1300
                              '83 502/502 Monte Carlo for sale/trade

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                              • olebiker
                                XSive Maximus
                                • Aug 2007
                                • 692
                                • Kingston ON

                                #150
                                I am getting about the same mileage. And mine is the same if I twist the throttle it drops quick. I love the bike but traveling with two bikes and getting that poor a mileage is not great. Just got home from another trip to the coast. Hit a pothole so hard in Quebec that the left caliper bolt snapped. I now need a few parts I jury rigged it to get home but the bolt is wrong and the keeper on the top off the pads is missing as well as I will need the spacer on the bottom. It was a big darn hole.
                                http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1241/1480921818_241eade448_s.jpg

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