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  • #16
    When I replaced the tire on my 79SF, the manual called for twisting the fork tubes so as to remove/replace the tire. It looks like you already have this covered but it is another variable in the equation.
    Darrell
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    • #17
      Speedo drive

      Is the speedo drive properly positioned and not in a bind?
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      • #18
        speedo is fine.

        Like I said, I removed the right caliper and the wheels turned fine, so I know it has to do with the right side.

        Now that the caliper is apart and cleaned , what's the preferred method to get that piston back in? Very tight fit as you know.

        Lots of little black flecks in the fluid,inside the caliper even after thoroughly flushing and bleeding through the bleeders.
        Howard

        ZRX1200

        BTW, ZRX carbs have the same spacing as the XS11... http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35462

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        • #19
          Those little black flecks the are remnants of the inside of 28 year old rubber brake lines. These are what gets into that tiny "Spooge" hole and inhibits the caliper from releasing pressure after being used.

          Stainless steel lines are fairly affordable if you look around online. You can still ride with what you have for a while, but I fear it will be an ongoing occasional problem until you get some new lines.

          Tod
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          • #20
            Hi hbonser,

            If you have the caliper all stripped and cleaned, the piston should slide back in easily with the pressure from your thumbs; shouldn't be tight at all.

            If it doesnt want to go, I bet you have not lifted the main caliper seal out of its groove; corrosion builds up behind it and pushes the seal forward. pop it out, clean the groove properly, and slip the seal back in. Lube it with either a little brake fluid or the proper, red, brake grease.

            DON'T use other types of oil or grease, and keep WD/40 and any copper-based anti-sieze compounds WELL AWAY from the rubbers.

            AlanB
            If it ain't broke, modify it!

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            • #21
              Make sure you lube everthing good with brake fluid before trying to push the piston in. Shouldn't need much force, if it does its too dry and you could risk damaging the seal or scratching the piston. Also make sure you are pushing it in square with the bore. You will know when its right cause it will slide in nice.

              Make sure everthing is spotless, don't leave any of those little black flecks behind.
              Ernie
              79XS1100SF (no longer naked, now a bagger)
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              • #22
                What's the procedure for centering the right caliper?

                I looked in the tech section but didn't see anything.
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                • #23
                  caliper alignment

                  On a Standard, the right front caliper bracket should be self-aligning, as the ajustment is on the left fork. Somtimes the right bracket isn't exactly centered, no biggie.
                  2H7 (79)
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                  • #24
                    Guys, good idea on checking behind the seal in the caliper itself. I noticed the bottom edge of that seal sticks out a hair, consistently, the whole way around.

                    Actually, I did the old bearing in the freezer trick with the piston, and it slicked right in. Just a bit of resistance as it got to the seal, but a couple taps with the hammer seated it the rest of the way.

                    I got that far this morning but didn't re-mount the caliper. That seal sticking out along the bottom edge made sense, kind of like a wiper to keep good contact with the piston... Maybe that bottom edge shouldn't be protruding from what you guys say?

                    BUT that seal could be the problem with why it seems the piston won't retract enough. With the caliper off, I can operate the lever and watch the piston come out, and retract, but it won't go back as much as it should apparently.

                    FYI, I had put the caliper back together last night, on the bike, and there was plenty of pad clearance. Once I got the system filled and bled, the pads again were still slightly tight against the rotor.

                    So, I took it back apart and that is where I am now, with the piston back in but nothing more. Getting good at this!

                    I'll get the piston back out and check under that seal.

                    It seems to be easiest for me to just fill the system again and use the brake lever to get the piston out, otherwise no dice. It's that tight in there.
                    Howard

                    ZRX1200

                    BTW, ZRX carbs have the same spacing as the XS11... http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35462

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                    • #25
                      Spooge hole

                      Hey, since the right side caliper is the culprit and the left is fine (I will take the left apart to clean it anyway, YUCK is what I found in the right caliper) as it relates to dragging pads, the spooge hole would seem NOT to be the culprit. Yes? No? Maybe?
                      Howard

                      ZRX1200

                      BTW, ZRX carbs have the same spacing as the XS11... http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35462

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                      • #26
                        Wasn't asking for my standard. Derwat had new tires put on his special, and the right side is dragging now. I thought maybe this centering procedure might do the trick.
                        Nice day, if it doesn't rain...

                        '05 ST1300
                        '83 502/502 Monte Carlo for sale/trade

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                        • #27
                          hbonser,

                          Check the caliper slider. Remove it from the rubber boot and clean/grease it. It needs to be free so the caliper can fully relax when you release the brake. The piston relaxes freeing one pad, and the slider allows the caliper to relax, freeing the other pad.

                          Commonly overlooked.

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                          • #28
                            Dumb question here...

                            Are you referring to the pin that the pads have going through them with the spring clip? I don't think that is it, as there is no boot.

                            Not sure what part it is, sorry for the brain fart.
                            Howard

                            ZRX1200

                            BTW, ZRX carbs have the same spacing as the XS11... http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35462

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                            • #29
                              NO.

                              There is a single bolt (12mm) holding the caliper to the bracket. It has a rubber boot on it. That is the slider.

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                              • #30
                                Oh, crap. You have a Special. OOPS

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