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    hey there folks...tried this stuff on the tank after i shot the base coats.....have filled her up a few times and it seems to work really well....just a thought...ross

    rebel devil
    1979 xs 1100f standard
    authenic historical vehicle
    42°36'23.52"N, 82°52'44.78"W
    "I'M IN MY HAPPY PLACE"
    "i got 14 jobs mon....you only got 1 job....you lazy bones mon"
    "if you don't wrench on it, get behind me satan!"
    '96 venture cct.....installed!
    stainless, braided, pvc coated brake lines
    i can translate...deustch, nederlands, 汉语, 漢語, français, ελληνικά, italiano, 한국어, português, русско, español and most importantly, 日本語....

  • #2
    Gas proof

    Hey Red i use that on my large gas powered RC airplanes its great makes everything fuel proof holds up very well and delivers a nice gloss to.
    John
    79 XS1100SF 750 FD,Galfer Brake lines,ebc brake pads,Cross Drilled Rotors,TKat fork brace,bead blasted wheels repainted and polished
    80 XS1100 S Project gonna be a hot rod
    06 CBR1000RR sold!!!!!
    2000 Concours
    84 Kawi KLR600
    79 Yam XT500 Ouch it kicks back
    79 XR250
    Why is it that the smallest part can fly to the farthest part of the shop?
    John

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    • #3
      What is it?

      Please tell us more. Is this an additive that you put into the paint or do you apply this after you paint to protect. Where do they sell it?

      Thanks

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      • #4
        Tell us more!!!!!
        Jim Horton
        Myrtle Beach SC 29588
        843-274-5045

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        • #5
          Tell us more!!!!!

          Hi Jim,
          it's model airplane fuel proofer, see:-
          http://www.hobbiesr.com/mid/mid-137/mid87-4.htm
          At $4.79 for a 3 1/2 oz jar it ain't the least cost solution though if it works to protect model airplane paint from the devil-mix that those little glow-plug motors burn it should be great against ordinary gasoline.
          Fred Hill, S'toon
          XS11SG with Spirit of America sidecar
          "The Flying Pumpkin"

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          • #6
            Thanks Fred. I'll take a look. Maybe it is available in a larger container somewhere else. I'll let folks know what I find.
            Jim Horton
            Myrtle Beach SC 29588
            843-274-5045

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            • #7
              Is it laquer or enamel?

              You can enamel over laquer, but you can't laquer over enamel.

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              • #8
                Is it laquer or enamel?....

                Actually .....I think its ' butyrate dope' .... more like laquer than enamel. Looks like they've removed the word 'dope' from the label .... bad connotation, I guiess . I inadvertantly sniffed a bunch workin' on flying models as a kid .... and I'm certain that's what happened to Planedick ..... lol.
                80G Mini-bagger
                VM33 Smooth bores, Pods, 4/1 Supertrapp, SS brake lines, fork brace

                Past XS11s

                79F Stone stocker and former daily driver, sold May '10 now converting for N.O. to cafe style
                79SF eventually dismantled for parts
                79F Bought almost new in 80, sold for a house
                79F The Ernie bike sold to a Navy dude summer 08
                79SF Squared-off Special, Vetter/Bates tour pkg., Mikes XS coils, G rear fender and tail light. Sold June 09

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                • #9
                  Paint

                  Hey guys when i shoot alot of tank i cvlear coat with a Urethane clear very tough stuff once cured . i have never had a problem with fuel causing paint to lift. The clear is made by nason which is owned by dupont it is Similar to Imron paint and that stuff is darn near indestructable. and this can be sprayed over any base color . Also alot of teh new single stage Urethanes are great they give same gloss as base coat clear coat. have great UV resistance and fuel resistance as well mostly used on Semis so its tough stuff ive ised it for yrs.
                  John
                  79 XS1100SF 750 FD,Galfer Brake lines,ebc brake pads,Cross Drilled Rotors,TKat fork brace,bead blasted wheels repainted and polished
                  80 XS1100 S Project gonna be a hot rod
                  06 CBR1000RR sold!!!!!
                  2000 Concours
                  84 Kawi KLR600
                  79 Yam XT500 Ouch it kicks back
                  79 XR250
                  Why is it that the smallest part can fly to the farthest part of the shop?
                  John

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                  • #10
                    I can still ....

                    smell Imron if I think about it, Paintman. Yuuuuk. Just the thought of shooting it almost makes me sick. Very noxious stuff. I agree on the single stage urethane clear coat too .... have used a bunch of DelClear in the past .... PPG product. California may have outlawed it by now too.
                    80G Mini-bagger
                    VM33 Smooth bores, Pods, 4/1 Supertrapp, SS brake lines, fork brace

                    Past XS11s

                    79F Stone stocker and former daily driver, sold May '10 now converting for N.O. to cafe style
                    79SF eventually dismantled for parts
                    79F Bought almost new in 80, sold for a house
                    79F The Ernie bike sold to a Navy dude summer 08
                    79SF Squared-off Special, Vetter/Bates tour pkg., Mikes XS coils, G rear fender and tail light. Sold June 09

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                    • #11
                      hey there folks....i see some of you know of this stuff....trust me you don't need a lot of it to do the job....consistancy of water.....best way i found to apply was 3 coats (very lightly) with a harbor freight air brush gun....gun cost about $12.....didn't mess with the base color or even the pin stripping.....i try not to get gas all over the place, but when i had some splash while filling the tank...just wiped it off and all was good....ross
                      rebel devil
                      1979 xs 1100f standard
                      authenic historical vehicle
                      42°36'23.52"N, 82°52'44.78"W
                      "I'M IN MY HAPPY PLACE"
                      "i got 14 jobs mon....you only got 1 job....you lazy bones mon"
                      "if you don't wrench on it, get behind me satan!"
                      '96 venture cct.....installed!
                      stainless, braided, pvc coated brake lines
                      i can translate...deustch, nederlands, 汉语, 漢語, français, ελληνικά, italiano, 한국어, português, русско, español and most importantly, 日本語....

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                      • #12
                        Her in Can'taffordya

                        We have these rubber accordian things on the gas nozzle that's supposed to seal off at the gas tank filler and suck back the fumes from the tank back to the station's tank. Holding them up is necessary to make the fuel flow. If you don't pull the accordian thing the pump will not put fuel in your tank. I eliminated the problem by cutting a short peice (5 1/4") of black 2" ABS plastic pipe that fits over the filler of my standard tank so I can just place the nozzle in the plastic peice and it holds back the accordian thing just like stuffing the nozzle in the gas tank of your cage. The real nice part of this is I can fill the tank past the top of the tank and up into the plastic pipe more than once and it will slowly bubble into the tank allowing me to put about another 1/2 gal and increasing my range by about 20 mi. Instead of 150 mi range I can go at least 170 mi. It also eliminates the spillage factor.
                        You can't stay young forever, but you can be immature for the rest of your life...

                        '78E "Pathfinder" Show bike...
                        Lovingly restored by Dave Delzell
                        Drilled airbox
                        Tkat fork brace
                        Hardly mufflers
                        late model carbs
                        Newer style fuses
                        Oil pressure guage
                        Custom security system
                        Stainless braid brake lines

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                        • #13
                          Do they still sell automotive acrylic laquer? Last time I painted my tank and covers I used DuPont Acrylic Laquer. Put on two base coats of black then a coat with gold microflake. Then covered it all with six coats of clear. This was in 1996 and it still looks like new today (after many fueling spills).

                          It is old technology but is very forgiving if you are not an extremely experienced painter. If they still actually sell the stuff then I would recommend it.

                          This is the picture for the 2008 calender and she still looks like this today.

                          Mike Giroir
                          79 XS-1100 Special

                          Once you un-can a can of worms, the only way to re-can them is with a bigger can.

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                          • #14
                            The beautiful SF?

                            That outstanding bike looked so familiar that I had to go back to the post from Nubee where I thought I remembered seeing it before .... the thread talking about LED conversion .... soooo ... uhhh ... are Nubee and Tadracer multiple iterations of the same guy? Their bikes sure do look alike ....
                            80G Mini-bagger
                            VM33 Smooth bores, Pods, 4/1 Supertrapp, SS brake lines, fork brace

                            Past XS11s

                            79F Stone stocker and former daily driver, sold May '10 now converting for N.O. to cafe style
                            79SF eventually dismantled for parts
                            79F Bought almost new in 80, sold for a house
                            79F The Ernie bike sold to a Navy dude summer 08
                            79SF Squared-off Special, Vetter/Bates tour pkg., Mikes XS coils, G rear fender and tail light. Sold June 09

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                            • #15
                              I can vouch for nubee being his own man. He lives in Ft.Worth, and I have met him several times, and I knew his bike before he bought it. It belonged to a member named btdtdan, and he lived just a couple of miles from me.

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