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    Rebuilding the front forks is the only thing I did not do to my 79 restore bike. So today I am doing that as part of spring prep.
    Manual says to loosen the bolt at the bottom and remove the inner tube. That bolt is turning but not coming out. Is there something I missed? Can the part that is inside be prevented from turning by way of the drain plug?
    Rob
    KEEP THE RUBBER SIDE DOWN

    1978 XS1100E Modified
    1978 XS500E
    1979 XS1100F Restored
    1980 XS1100 SG
    1981 Suzuki GS1100
    1983 Suzuki GS750S Katana
    1983 Honda CB900 Custom

  • #2
    Rob,

    I had the same problem when I rebuilt mine in the fall. There are some good tips on here on how to hold the center section tight while turning out the bolt. I used a whittled down broom stick and my impact gun. Used the same method to put them back together.

    Let me know if you want to borrow my broom stick.



    Paul
    Paul
    1983 XJ1100 Maxim
    1979 XS1100 Standard
    1980 XS1100 Special

    I'm not a motorcycle mechanic but I play one on the internet.

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    • #3
      "MY ex left her spare broomstick in the closet..."

      Put a rag on the floor....
      Turn the fork up side down....
      Put a little fat into it...(Meaning, throw some weight on it and compress the fork tube)
      The extra compression on the spring 'oft stops the innerds from spinning.
      "Damn it Jim, I'm a doctor, not a mechanic!' ('Bones' McCoy)

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      • #4
        air wrench

        When I converted my forks to air I took mine down to the shop and used an air wrench to break them loose, a quick blast was all it took. then I finished up with a ratchet.
        Fastmover
        "Just plant us in the damn garden with the stupid
        lion". SHL
        78 XS1100e

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        • #5
          fork damping rod

          I use a 3/4 in. (19 mm) bolt with 2 nuts locked togeather with a deepwell socket and a long extention(s). The head of the bolt will fit down the fork tube into the damping rod and keep it from spinning. HTH
          2H7 (79) owned since '89
          3H3 owned since '06

          "If it ain't broke, modify it"

          ☮

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          • #6
            OK .. I'm sure I'm going to get "b*tch slapped" for this one but time was of the essence.
            I could not get that blasted bolt out of the bottom because I would need a 3rd arm to do it soooo .. I cleaned the forks without disassembly.
            I drained all the oil out of them after removing the caps and then filled them with de-greaser. I let that sit for a while and then operated the forks several times to pump the de-greaser through the galleries. I repeated that several times and also shook the heck out of them with the caps on. The de-greaser that I poured out of them was very UGLY. I then rinsed them with a lot of contact cleaner which was also pumped through the galleries. I rinsed until the contact cleaner was flowing out clean. I then refiled them with the correct amount and weight of fork oil, dropped in the cleaned springs and that's that.
            Last edited by 79XS11F; 04-13-2008, 04:30 PM.
            KEEP THE RUBBER SIDE DOWN

            1978 XS1100E Modified
            1978 XS500E
            1979 XS1100F Restored
            1980 XS1100 SG
            1981 Suzuki GS1100
            1983 Suzuki GS750S Katana
            1983 Honda CB900 Custom

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            • #7
              "No slapping needed." (At least not for this)

              The walls will have just a light coat of oil, so your method should have taken care of that.
              The real gunk is at the bottom. 90% of the time it just takes Brakleen or something similar to break that up and flush it out.
              All things considered... I'd say no biggie.
              "Damn it Jim, I'm a doctor, not a mechanic!' ('Bones' McCoy)

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              • #8
                Uh Prom,

                If I'm not missing something, he partially loosened and removed the bolt in the bottom of the fork in an attempt to remove the upper tube assembly. That bolt holds the dampening rod in place, as well as the upper fork tube to the lower slider!

                IIRC, the manual strongly mentions the need to reapply fresh threadlock to the bottom bolt to hold it in place and keep it from coming loose so that the slider doesn't fall off the end of the upper tube!

                SO...Rob, you might be able to rely on just the torque pressure of that bottom bolt holding onto the dampening rod, but I would feel more secure with threadlock, especially since you DID loosen it!
                T.C.
                T. C. Gresham
                81SH "Godzilla" . . .1179cc super-rat.
                79SF "The Teacher" . . .basket case!
                History shows again and again,
                How nature points out the folly of men!

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                • #9
                  Thanks for the warning but I'm good to go TC...I had it in the a wood jawed vice when I started and it appeared to be moving but in fact never even broke the original tightness. It was just turning the inner parts. That was why I decided to not get overly involved with it at this point in time.
                  Rob
                  KEEP THE RUBBER SIDE DOWN

                  1978 XS1100E Modified
                  1978 XS500E
                  1979 XS1100F Restored
                  1980 XS1100 SG
                  1981 Suzuki GS1100
                  1983 Suzuki GS750S Katana
                  1983 Honda CB900 Custom

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                  • #10
                    bolt

                    the bottom bolt won't turn alot of the time
                    turn the tool you have in the fork leg. more than once some one has come to me needing something welded to the bottom bolt to be able to hold it again .
                    as ever bill
                    bill hane

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                    • #11
                      Mine are still around if you want them.

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                      • #12
                        Re: bolt

                        Originally posted by snowdog51
                        the bottom bolt won't turn alot of the time
                        turn the tool you have in the fork leg. more than once some one has come to me needing something welded to the bottom bolt to be able to hold it again .
                        as ever bill
                        Hey bill... I didn't strip the bolt or break anything that I am aware of. It just didn't loosen at all. It Just turned so I opted to do the non disassembled cleaning job. The next time I find myself needing to tear down some forks I think I will follow bikerphil's suggestion.
                        Rob
                        KEEP THE RUBBER SIDE DOWN

                        1978 XS1100E Modified
                        1978 XS500E
                        1979 XS1100F Restored
                        1980 XS1100 SG
                        1981 Suzuki GS1100
                        1983 Suzuki GS750S Katana
                        1983 Honda CB900 Custom

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Meatloaf
                          Mine are still around if you want them.
                          Hey Aaron .. I actually have 2 other good sets here already but thanks for the offer.
                          Rob
                          KEEP THE RUBBER SIDE DOWN

                          1978 XS1100E Modified
                          1978 XS500E
                          1979 XS1100F Restored
                          1980 XS1100 SG
                          1981 Suzuki GS1100
                          1983 Suzuki GS750S Katana
                          1983 Honda CB900 Custom

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by bikerphil View Post
                            I use a 3/4 in. (19 mm) bolt with 2 nuts locked togeather with a deepwell socket and a long extention(s). The head of the bolt will fit down the fork tube into the damping rod and keep it from spinning. HTH
                            Does the top of thar STINKING dampening rod have a 19 mm recess in the top of it or does the 19mm bolt just get jamed in place inside the rod?
                            Rob
                            KEEP THE RUBBER SIDE DOWN

                            1978 XS1100E Modified
                            1978 XS500E
                            1979 XS1100F Restored
                            1980 XS1100 SG
                            1981 Suzuki GS1100
                            1983 Suzuki GS750S Katana
                            1983 Honda CB900 Custom

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                            • #15
                              There is a 12 point 19mm recess.I mean a nut would sit in it.I have a piece of all thread with a nut welded on each end.I stick it down the tube into it and use an impact on the capscrew on the other end.I did find out though that if I break that bolt loose before removing the fork from the bike,it usually comes right off with just an impact.Then remove and disassemble the leg.
                              80 SG XS1100
                              14 Victory Cross Country

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