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  • #16
    spirit be good

    About same as having a fairing with out the weight (or storage)


    mro

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    • #17
      o.k., thanks. that's helpful.

      Leon
      1982 XJ1100J Maxim
      2000 BMW R1200C

      “We go to heaven for the climate, hell for the company.” – Mark Twain

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      • #18
        My experiences with windscreens and windshields on Yamahas has been that while they offer you some wind protection.It comes at a great price.The aerodynamics are pretty bad for that wind deflection.Wind noise and buffeting and high wind resistance make fork mounted screens and shields less than ideal.Compared to a frame mounted fairing like a Vetter Windjammer.Where your aerodynamics are cleaner and your ride is more stable and quiet.The amount of overall wind and weather protection make it clearly superior to any fork mounted system.I have never actually owned a Vetter but I have had a host of fork mounted screens and I never really liked any of them...I am looking for a Vetter for my '82 XJ11.It will change the look of the bike...but I for one can live with it
        1980 XS650G Special-Two
        1993 Honda ST1100

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        • #19
          Hey BNE,

          Same bike, same issues.

          If you find something and there's more than one, please let me know.

          I just recently got my '82 XJ11 and I love the naked bike look and feel, but getting on the highway ...

          My other bike is a full-fairing bike that you can even ride in the rain.

          best, Leon
          1982 XJ1100J Maxim
          2000 BMW R1200C

          “We go to heaven for the climate, hell for the company.” – Mark Twain

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          • #20
            Hey Leon,
            I was looking on ebay at some Vetters but its hard to tell exactly what you are getting.I saw a number of them forsale.What is important to remember is that most all Vetters will fit any of our bikes but you must have the correct mounting hardware to mount to the frame.So when I search for a Vetter i would really like to find one that came off a Yamaha.That does narrow the field a bit.My other bike is a '95 Honda ST1100 and I know all abt full fairing protection.Its second to none in my book. BNE
            1980 XS650G Special-Two
            1993 Honda ST1100

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            • #21
              National Cycle Deflector Shield

              Originally posted by madmax-im
              Wind noise and buffeting and high wind resistance make fork mounted screens and shields less than ideal.
              Having had frame mounted fairings in the past (Vetter), I've found that they cause what is known as "decelleration wobble" which is not really a wobble but a slow wagging of the bars when decellerating at about 45 mph. Yamaha's recommended fix back in the early '80s was to mount a steering damper. I went another route on my XJ750RH and mounted a Telefix fork brace which cured the wag. I suppose Tkat's brace would do the same on an Eleven.

              I'm currently running a National Cycle Deflector Shield which is the smallest shield they make. Purchased from J. C. Whitney. It took awhile to get the height and rake correct so that I didn't get buffeted about the head by the backwash but it's fine now. I have the quick release hardware which allows the shield to be removed in seconds without losing your adjustment settings.

              With shield


              without shield


              I have ridden the bike in 55 mph crosswinds across the Golden Gate Bridge and had very little trouble staying in the center of the lane. Cars were being blown all over the place, one guy was blown across 2 lanes.

              Shiny side up,
              650 Mike

              XS1100SF "Rusty", runs great, 96k miles
              XS650SJ "The Black Bike", engine from XS650H with 750cc big bore kit, 30k miles

              Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in one pretty and well preserved piece, but to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, worn out and defiantly shouting, "WOW, what a ride !" - [URL="http://www.flyingsnail.com/Sprung/index.html"]Sprung[/URL]

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              • #22
                Hey madmax-im,

                I believe that for our XJs you also need mounting hardware for the square handlebars.

                Unless frame-mounted means the handlebars don't matter ...


                xs650mike? Do you know the answer for us XJ1100 guys?

                best, Leon
                1982 XJ1100J Maxim
                2000 BMW R1200C

                “We go to heaven for the climate, hell for the company.” – Mark Twain

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                • #23
                  Leon,
                  Most likely the mounting hardware mounts to the frame not the forks or to the handlebars.Vetters are fixed onto the frame and the handlebars are independent of the fairing.The only things that might connect to the handlebars would be fork mounted windscreens and shields.
                  1980 XS650G Special-Two
                  1993 Honda ST1100

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                  • #24
                    Vetter mount...
                    Few pieces of 1/2 inch tubing and a little bit of eighth inch steel plate.
                    Two bolts and some hose clamps hold it to frame.
                    Four 1/4-20 bolts hold fairing to frame.
                    Would not be hard to fab one.


                    mro

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                    • #25
                      o.k., then.

                      So what it sounds like is that any Vetter will do?

                      Can that be right, for example with our round headlights?

                      L.
                      1982 XJ1100J Maxim
                      2000 BMW R1200C

                      “We go to heaven for the climate, hell for the company.” – Mark Twain

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                      • #26
                        By the way, did a search on: "yamaha XJ1100 fairing"

                        and came up with this on eBay.

                        http://search.stores.ebay.com/yamaha...cusZbsQQsofpZ4
                        1982 XJ1100J Maxim
                        2000 BMW R1200C

                        “We go to heaven for the climate, hell for the company.” – Mark Twain

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                        • #27
                          Leon,
                          I am not sure abt all Vetters cuz there were certain models that were made for bikes of our Years..so within certain models of Vetter.Any Vetter Windjammer would fit as long as you have the proper mount for your bike....Those Yamaha XJ1100 fairings are all fork/handlebar mounted.
                          1980 XS650G Special-Two
                          1993 Honda ST1100

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                          • #28
                            Hi, just thought I'd throw in a new option for you to ponder about . I fitted a (gasp) BMW R80RT fairing to my '79 Special and with a little bit of fiddling, went on like a glove. The original BMW bracket bolts nearly straight up to the steering lock fitting on the headstem and with a few shims added to get the angle right, fits the old girl perfectly. I had to add the shims 'cos the original angle was too steep and fuel economy went out the window but a couple of spacers behind the lower bolt fixed it up just fine. If you have a special, the fairing inner panels clear the gas tank-just, but if you've got a standard tank, you'd have to remove the panels for it to fit in there. i later cut the panels down, glassed them over and refitted them to allow for my 23 litre tank. The rear bracket could be used if you made a frame clamp up near the coils but I went the other road and made my own mounts up for it closer to the front. I'm not saying this is the way you should go. just giving you another option in case you might be able to pick one up cheap, as I did.
                            Regards,
                            Errol
                            You can check out the photos at http://www.bikepics.com/yamaha/xs1100/79/pics.asp
                            79 SF Special W/ Stock all original motor @ 384,000klms
                            Stock exhaust, stock airbox, XJ sump, 78E carbs, Xs1100RH seat, Bosch superhorns, 5/8ths front M/c, braided lines, sintered SBS pads, drilled discs, progressive springs, 8" 50w HID headlight 4300K, 2 x 50w HID spiral driving lights, KONI shocks, Spade fuse box
                            *Touring mode - Plexistar 2 screen, Gearsack rack & bag & saddlebags, homebuilt towbar
                            *"The Keg"- UC torana hubs, XS11 discs, Tokico 4 spot calipers

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                            • #29
                              I have a plexiglass sheild as well as a vetter like MRO. I have never put the vetter on it because it looks like a major pain to install when you have to get into removing the headlight and all.

                              How much time does it take and how difficult should it be if I want to put the vetter fairing on?
                              Owned by a pair of XS11's. An 80 Standard and a 79 Special.

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                              • #30
                                If you have the mounting bracket, about 20 minutes.
                                Automotive Imbecile.
                                Proud owner of 'The Swiftcicle'. (Swifty for short)
                                '78E Full Vetter Dresser.
                                1196 Big Bore Kit.

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