Can't remove oil filter

[79XS11F]

Those bolts don't take a lot of torque on the re-install so check the manual and use some anti seize lube on the threads eh
Rob

[brucealmighty]

Well, I'm about at the end of my rope. I've thrown everything in the arsenal at it, and the SOB won't budge. At this point, I've ground the bolt and flange down almost flush with the housing and drilled a hole up to a quarter inch. I'm really trying not to trash the filter housing, but I'm not sure I can avoid that, in fact I may have already. I know I can get another bolt easily enough, but the housing is strictly a salvage part and won't be so easy to find. I'm at the tail end of an entire day spent sweating and cursing over that thing, and I am fed up! Next is to smash it off with a hammer!

I see there are several housings available on ebay for the XS1100. Does anyone know if they would fit a 1982 XJ1100?

[trbig]

Don't smash it off... it is screwed up into the block and you'll ruin your whole motor.

If you've already screwed up the filter housing, just keep grinding on the head of the bolt until it's gone... The filter will spring off and probably make a $&*# of a mess, but you will have enough bolt there to grab with a pipe wrench.

I don't think a filter housing will be hard to find. I think I even have a spare one somewhere.


Tod

[Crazcnuk]

I would still go with Topcats Spin on oil filter assembly, in fact, wait, I did go with his adapter!

But, if you grind the head and built-in washer off the housing bolt, the whole housing should slide off giving you access to a lot more of the bolt.

You shouldn't really be able to damage the housing grinding the head off that bolt, unless you go right through it.

I have a couple spare bolts here, if you need it. And if you can wait, I will have a whole housing as well, once I put my spin-on adaptor on.

Derwat has a bolt/housing set as well and a brand new filter housing bolt that he won't need once he puts his spin-on adapter on.

[AlanB]

Hi Bruce,

best approach is to weld a big nut to it; 17/19mm spanner size, as mentioned above. fill in the centre hole with weld, don't try to go round the outside. if the force you can generate with a spanner that big doesn't shift it, you have real problems.

If you are determined to remove it all by destroying the bolt, there are a couple of things to remember; the bolt (and the hole in the housing is BIG....20mm!

Second, the seal between the bolt and housing is on the outside diameter of the bolt, not the face. So if you grind the head off of the bolt and do a little damage to the bottom of the housing, it should still seal.

If you drill the bolt away and do a little damage to the inside of the hole in the base of the husing, it is probably scrap.

AlanB

[79XS11F]

Yeah DON'T hammer it off !!!!!! or more serious trouble will occur. Once the housing is off you will have LOTS of bolt to grab onto. and also be able to put the penetrating fluid to it.
NOW I don't want to upset you as your already having a difficulty here but DO MAKE SURE YOUR TURNING IT THE RIGHT WAY. Some folks get mixed up when they are working on a bolt that is upside down unless they are laying on their back?
Rob

[brucealmighty]

Well, it's over. I had to get violent. I kept drilling larger holes, and then, realizing I couldn't save the housing, drilled holes through the sides of it and kept working it with a large screwdriver until it popped off. I had actually drilled right through the bolt, severing it in half. What was left, easily unscrewed from the engine block. As far as I can see, I haven't caused any damage to the engine. I will gladly accept any one of the kind offers to sell me a housing and bolt. Thanks.

[andreashweiss]

bolt,spring,oil filter housing,used,off 78 e standard, $20.00 includes shipping. Send me a PM andreas . Have several .

[malber]

You guys are making me real scared about my next oil change. I'm due for a filter change at that time and on my last change I didn't put never-sieze on it.

Last time I changed the oil I had a bitch of a time getting the drain plug out. Had to resort to an impact driver. Now it's got never-sieze and a nylon washer.

[Jerry]

Had to use the hammer-and-chisel approach to get the bolt off the XJ when I first bought it, replaced the oil filter bolt with one from Dennis Kirk and have not had a problem changing oil since. The replacement had (has) a larger nut on it than the OEM bolt. Also remember that you are tightening up against an O-ring, not a lot of force needed on the bolt to get a good seal.

[79XS11F]

Originally posted by malber
You guys are making me real scared about my next oil change. I'm due for a filter change at that time and on my last change I didn't put never-sieze on it.

Last time I changed the oil I had a bitch of a time getting the drain plug out. Had to resort to an impact driver. Now it's got never-sieze and a nylon washer.

That filter housing bolt is only an issue if someone had wrenched it in too tight. The anti seize is just insurance. I tend to use it any time steel bolts are going into alloy parts.
Rob

[brucealmighty]

When I install the new bolt on the filter cover, I'll make sure not to over torque. Also, next filter change, at the first sign of a problem, I'll head right to a welding shop and have a 19mm nut welded onto the 12mm nut that is OEM, which is clearly too small.

[mason79]

now try taking the rear or middle gear filler scews off...

[fredintoon]

now try taking the rear or middle gear filler screws off...

Oh yeah,
my filler screws were cratered out when I got the bike and no way could I shift them. I carefully filed two flats on their edges to break them loose with an open-end wrench. I fixed them by drilling the cratered hexagons to 6mm diameter and brazing in the stubbed heads of two M6 hex head bolts. That and a red fibre washer on each lets them undo with a 10mm box end no problem. But why didn't they put hex heads on those things in the first place? Something a designer soon learns is to NEVER use a hex socket fastener that you can't bear straight down on.

[red bandit]

Save yourself future problems.... buy 6 point sockets. And DON'T OVERTIGHTEN!!!