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    I'm experiencing the losing of bolts connecting the universal to the middle drive again. Someone told me that these bolts are of a special type. Is it true?
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  • #2
    They are in deed listed in the manual as Special hardened steel and the manual says to not reuse them ... Myself .. I have never had an issue with them but i use lock tight on them :-)
    Rob
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    • #3
      Some times head bolts are made for one time use. They stretch when they are torqued and then that's the end of their life. Once loosened your supposed to get new ones. That being said I always re-used head bolts and never had a problem. Can you use lock washers maybe?
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      • #4
        Lock washers

        When I got Pathfinder it had the bolts that came out and they were lockwashers on them, but I don't think they are the right bolts as they are certainly not hard. When they come loose they hit the AHCS on the back of the middle drive. They get all mashed and bent yet the AHCS's show no signs of being hit. I guess the best bet is to get some grade 8 bolts for them. I was thinking maybe they were like shoulder bolts because the holes they go through is kind of big for the bolts.
        You can't stay young forever, but you can be immature for the rest of your life...

        '78E "Pathfinder" Show bike...
        Lovingly restored by Dave Delzell
        Drilled airbox
        Tkat fork brace
        Hardly mufflers
        late model carbs
        Newer style fuses
        Oil pressure guage
        Custom security system
        Stainless braid brake lines

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        • #5
          Hey Dick,

          The fiche calls them Washer based Hex Bolts, so does sound like what you are calling shoulder bolts...in other words, bolts with hex heads and built in round washer at base of hex head.

          I don't remember using locktite on mine, haven't had any problems, but they were OEM!
          T.C.
          T. C. Gresham
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          • #6
            I know

            TC, I know what you're talking about "washer based hex bolts" but shoulder bolts have a smooth precision shaft under the head with threads at the bottom that usually fits in a machined hole . I can get grade 8 washer based hex bolts so when I trade out this motor I'll put them in and probably use locktite too.
            You can't stay young forever, but you can be immature for the rest of your life...

            '78E "Pathfinder" Show bike...
            Lovingly restored by Dave Delzell
            Drilled airbox
            Tkat fork brace
            Hardly mufflers
            late model carbs
            Newer style fuses
            Oil pressure guage
            Custom security system
            Stainless braid brake lines

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            • #7
              bolts

              you don't have to use locktite on all bolts
              just the ones you want to stay tight.
              as ever bill
              bill hane

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