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    Hi again. I put a new exhaust system(MAC 4-2) on and noticed a popping on deceleration on the left side out of the pipe. I thought it was an exhaust leak, so I replaced the gaskets on that side. No change. I started messing with my pilots. I noticed that on my #2 carb I can close the pilot all the way off with no difference in idle. If I open it up to much, it starts popping during idle. (too much fuel?) If I close any of the other pilots it almost dies. I took my carbs off and completely disassembled and cleaned and blew out. When I put it back together, it did the exact same thing. I am worried the the popping on deceleration is going to burn my valves. Help me guys, I am missing out on riding weather.
    Bill

    1980 XS 1100 Special
    1979 650 Special - sold (Stupid Me!)

  • #2
    I don't think you have ALL of the pilot passages clean. I would also check on the float levels, and the condition of the "O" ring on the needle valve for the float. I don't think the "new" carbs break the pilot needles like the older style did.
    A little bit of backfire or popping shouldn't hurt, so you can ride it. I know my bike "burbles" on de-acceleration, but I still get 42 MPG and it runs well.
    Just my $0.02
    Ray Matteis
    KE6NHG
    XS1100 E '78 (winter project)
    XS1100 SF Bob Jones worked on it!

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    • #3
      The o-rings appear to be in good shape. I swapped the needles around with the same outcome. I have my floats set for 25 mm, and they all match. When I cleaned it, I thought I got everything. It was doing it before I pulled them. That was why I pulled them this time. I had carb cleaner spraying out orifices I didn't know I had! I guess I will pull them again this weekend.
      Bill

      1980 XS 1100 Special
      1979 650 Special - sold (Stupid Me!)

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      • #4
        floats set for 25 mm

        80SG float height 23mm, + - .05mm
        (from factory manual)


        mro

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        • #5
          23mm from where?

          When I check my float height, I go from the metal lip where the gasket would normally sit to the flat suface area of the float. Is this right?
          Bill

          1980 XS 1100 Special
          1979 650 Special - sold (Stupid Me!)

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          • #6
            Hey Bill,

            Yes, from the flat recessed surface that the gasket sits on to the top/highest point of the float.

            Like DiverRay said, the aftermarket pipes do flow a bit better than the oems, and could be leaning it out a little, and with your floats set to high(upside down), it's even leaner. Resetting the floats lower/richer will help, but may not completely eliminate the popping. My 4-1 pops quite a bit during decel when I close the butterflies, and I,too, have new good exhaust header gaskets. I just consider it Godzilla's GROWL!!
            T. C. Gresham
            81SH "Godzilla" . . .1179cc super-rat.
            79SF "The Teacher" . . .basket case!
            History shows again and again,
            How nature points out the folly of men!

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            • #7
              If whay your saying is that you have the carbs up-side down on the bench, bowls off and are measuring from the float bowl gasket surface (not from the gasket) then yes.......


              mro

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              • #8
                TC speed typer

                think I go mow my weeds



                mro

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                • #9
                  Re: 23mm from where?

                  You are no talking about that raised line in the center of the metal gasket surface are you? I measure from either side of that raised line, but not from on top of it.

                  Originally posted by Radiation
                  When I check my float height, I go from the metal lip where the gasket would normally sit to the flat suface area of the float. Is this right?
                  Skids (Sid Hansen)

                  Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

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                  • #10
                    Thats what I meant. I put the end of the calipers on the inside of the little ridge.
                    Bill

                    1980 XS 1100 Special
                    1979 650 Special - sold (Stupid Me!)

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                    • #11
                      Brian
                      XS1100 LG "Mr T", SG "ICBM" & FJ1200
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